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Ausrine is the death of this games PvP

Game has the worst pvp I have ever seen. Immunities and cc shouldn’t last more than 2-3 seconds at most.

Game sucks, all top pvp builds are just mindless immunity ■■■■, IMC wont change it.

Have a nice day.

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Is this the fabled daily Cleric cry thread everyone talks about? Is there seriously no way to counter statues with like say knock backs or something that people have to complain this much? I remember Dabirdy’s used to complain daily about statues being moved until I guess that got changed.

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Epitome of balance

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Beside ausrine, this game as stupids immunity and cc like sleep, being freeze, missing hole, and the list goes on

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the amount of cry is too much. oh wait, he’s the All-knowing player who keeps telling me to play the game first.

honestly ausrine offers tremendous asset both offensive and defensive. but that doesn’t mean you’re a God in TBL with it.

Ausrine does make you invul to damage, but not CC. that was a different case. we’ve rekt a lot of groups in TBL with ausrines because they get Cocky over it.

Your an All-Knowing Player so why complain about this? your words are firing back at you.

‘GO PLAY AND UNDERSTAND THE GAME MORE’

hint: ever heard of Iron-hook?

hahahah ■■■■ this… sorry i can’t contain myself from laughing how stupid you are really.

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To add this up, Ausrine requires special condition to receive the buff. (rotating Counter clockwise).

there are lots of classes that can Fuuck you up before you even receive your buff. most notable there is this Kino who teleport and magnet the shiit your team right after the battle starts.

some Sw3Cata3 are also making you stunlock via rush wether you got the buff or not on the go.

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While I have played this game and know there’s major imbalances I do feel at some point people blow this stuff way out of proportion. You go play a real PVP game and the same damn CC is going to be there whether you like it or not. Some do it better with diminished returns on stacking or something but it still ends up being all the same.

It’s almost like the people complaining are the ones who want to bring some type of full damage PvE build into PVP and expect to just mindlessly DPS someone down. So there’s always another side to that coin when you think about it.

Never really got too in depth with PVP with this game because I knew it was stupid from the start, but how well do Rogue builds with Capture work?

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i saw some tide-turning capture plays somehow. most likely stealing and returning hard AoE CC’s like Raise and Stop. some also steals Safetyzone to remove their defensive tile.

The annoying thing about capture is, when you capture a spell, you have to let it go at the same round. because if you don’t. the spell will be in the state of ‘already captured’, but it won’t throw anything on the next round. which kinda sucks. specially it has very long cooldown.

You’re a lvl 290 nooblet. Congrats you won TBL once you da best.

I’m the stupid one hahahahahhaha.

This is what you get when you brag shiit yet you don’t own anything. serves you right All-Knowing wannabe.

Oracle. And there goes the counter.

Oh theres a kino who might rush on the other side? Lets counterspell after carving ausrine.

Lets add a prophecy so lvl 1 stun wont work. Or any lvl1 debuff. Which are 95% of all debuffs.

Lets throw some Inqui traps and add r7 so theres really no surprise here, says the meme pvp cleric.

Anything to add?

pitch in more salt, when the issue was focus on ‘ausrine’ itself, keep throwing other skills into it.

oh you want to defend how ausrine would work? fine,

counter spell?
a cata can Stunlock everyone with restrain3 using Rush.

prophecy? here comes my Ironhook.

you sure think your fast? we got linker3 on our side, Mass teleport then instant dive to your ass…

Oh back on that defensive spells again? How about some Reversi on your face?

Stop acting like you’ll have the perfect scenario for everything. for the lulz

seriously dude? The only issue the OP posted was ausrine,. and as i mentioned, Ausrine alone isn’t a threat. go read first before you pitch in some salts.

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bubububu

Cause Ausrine comes never alone. Unless clerics stop lvling after reaching rank 5. So you’re talking about a situation actually never happening. [quote=“elzeraus, post:14, topic:339701”]
counter spell?a cata can Stunlock everyone with restrain3 using Rush.
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Only possible if an Oracle would only cast counter spell and not Prophecy. Another one of these not existing scenarios. Being only a lvl1 debuff, Proph prevents stun long enough.

Yeah lets throw in another class to counter 1 cleric. Oh the Inqui threw some traps, looks like your hook is used up and the clerics invul friends target you.

The skill you need for that is physical chain, which several linkers dont even skill “for a reason”. And ofc the linker has to be psycho. Or having another psycho in the team. Again 2 classes to counter 1.[quote=“elzeraus, post:14, topic:339701”]
Oh back on that defensive spells again? How about some Reversi on your face?
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What are you going to reversi? Ausrine? Or the counterspell the Oracle just used to destroy the raise? You rarely see meta clerics even casting sz 'cause they need to stay still, being a nice target and all.

You need the perfect scenario to counter 1 cleric. Your odds are bad there.

Ausrine is the core. Aus alone wont help much but since it never comes alone, the other team is just ■■■■■■ in most cases.

Anything to add? Feels like your rage clouds your thinking a bit.

Keep the salt coming, says from someone who never reached the top :relieved:

ever wonder why competitive players don’t complain a lot? because they know how to deal with it. if you’re stuck below 950 points you can spray more salts on forum. afterall, this is your daily Cleric complaint thread.

tbh all i do against ausrine is rush+restrain, then for the rest of the 10 seconds i just use bash/earth wave
for r7x, i just basic attack its (although sometimes dying to it is inevitable)
as a cataphract a lot of times i would run fast to the players and catch at least 1 of them who wasn’t able to get ausrine fast enough
and with a dragoon that’s even easier with dethrone
my lancer was able to destroy the silence diev statue but im not sure about ausrine i should test that
right now the only clerics i really suffer against are priest 3 and inquisitor.

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Aw yea, I was already missing this thread.

It’s like 9/10 hates ausrine and that ■■■■■■■ meta cleric build, 1/10 rerolled this one and is against.

Still nobody will care if we complain or not lol

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Inquisitor with “Malleus Maleficarum” is much more cancer

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well, i like the fact that he says i’d need a perfect scenario to counter 1 cleric.

i can’t even…

he wants to defend ausrine paired with other defensive skill.

but hate the fact that Each of his defensive skill always have a counter.

seriously? might have been influenced greatly by our OP who’s all-knowing guy.

You’re just missing that in a 80 classes game, one (godly) skill having only one (or two, or three) counter is bad balance.
It should have over 10 counters.

And making the statue area a deadzone before people get the buff isn’t a counter anyway. It means you won game because you’re OP and killed everyone before they could do anything. GG, such PGM.

Anyway Ausrine is standard skill, right ?
You could play game just as efficiently without it, right ? Because it’s easy to counter, right ? You (and your teammates) almost never get the buff, right ? And players can use all their CC on you when you are buffed, right ?
Why are you whining because people want to nerf your (not) precious Ausrine then ?

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