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Ausrine is the death of this games PvP

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#22

i care to disagree if you may, that is what it means to have Pros/Cons. yes, ausrine gives you invulnerability. a great boost in terms of offense and Defense, However. accept the fact that it also has it’s CON, in which preparation/conditions must be met. first and foremost, placing the statue, secondly. running over the circles counter clockwise.

Now, if you’re saying that Ausrine is OP, and yet being fagged by others before you can execute. which is OP then? ausrine or something else that fvked ausrine before anything else?

just making a Straightforward Statement here.

edit1:

I personally dont care if ausrine gets nerfed a lot. i’m not depending on it anyways because i use SR most of the time. if there’s something i want to remove in this game. it’s JP and the linker class.

#23

After Ausrine gets nerfed though we’ll need a thread every day for Mackangdal, Safety Zone, Revive, and Sterea Trofh too. That way you just don’t have to come up with team comp theories going against metas which is something that exists in almost any competitive PVP type game ever.

Thinking is hard and execution is even harder, so lets just remove all mechanics and make gameplay based purely around auto attacks like IMC wanted originally. That way everyone can be like: “OH MY GOODNESS DID YOU SEE MY SICK JUKES? DAMN SON YOU GOT OUT PLAYED BY MY BOUNCING BARB BUILD. OWNED. KAPPA”

No immunity
No CC
No strategy
All damage
Final Destination!

I’d suggest Graal Online for all your PVP needs. It’s much more balanced and better than Tree of Savior.

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#24

Mackangdal and Sterea aren’t broken at all.

Mack is even pretty bad if you consider you have no way to check how much damage you’ve taken while having the buff, so you don’t know if you are going to die or not the second it goes off, even at full hp. Yes, you could step into a SZ but that’s good synergy of skills, which is a good thing

Sterea needs either grass or chortasmata to even work. How can that be broken? After ausrine (or even before it) we should complain about missile hole in pvp

#25

How is setting up Sterea Trofh any different from carving out Ausrine on a more serious note? Or having Mackangdal on then putting up Revive so you don’t die and become immune for X seconds? Only way you’d stop the Mackangdal->Revive thing is to CC the Cleric so they can’t cast Revive right before it ends.

Just pretty much saying dumb stuff here because that’s what OP was complaining with immunities. Not having played for half a year I’m not even sure if anyone would go Priest/Bokor anyways.

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#26

Are you really comparing it to aus? It takes pretty much the same to carve aus and setting up sterea, but sterea locks you in place just like sz. How’s that similar to an invincibility with no drawbacks?

Also you won’t see revive right before the cleric is dying with mack on because everyone casts it as soon as the match begins to let the whole party get the buff

#27

Is ausrine going to got a nerf like sb0? :boom:

#28

I was in the terms of setting it up mainly and both being invulns. Not so much on the whole freedom to move part and thinking it doesn’t need a nerf. I’d give my honest real opinion on it but that won’t matter because IMC does nothing to fix and balance this stuff so there’s no point suggesting anything.

#29

There’s a lot of unbalanced and worst things in the cleric tree, ausrine is pretty “ok” if the other team have ccs rank10 or any knockback if the diev is a oracle or pd. IT IS unbalanced with lets say kabba and inquisitor.

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#30

relax, miko will wipe out that buffs lol

#31

thing is there are only a few classes that counter it and as far as matchmaking is concerned pre-made parties are still a fantasy, add to that the fact that IMC issues not a single concern about it, so yeah can’t really blame OP and the rest.

#32

IMC is the death of this game.

/hue

#33

Your con would only really be a con if the game wouldnt lock both teams into their area for 3 seconds first. Guess what, Carving ausrine actually only needs 2 seconds. So no matter what you do, the meta cleric always got the advantage.

Your imagination is pretty limited for someone trying to be so smart and all knowing. You dont even bother to think things till the end just and only to prove your opposite wrong. It looks like you already know you’re on the losing end with your repetetive hollow points, that you’re trying to offend me with wild accusations you cant even be sure of.

Im pretty capable of reaching high ranks even without the help of ausrine or counterspell. But its fact that these meta cleric builds have it way easier than anyone else. Thats how unbalanced the game is.

Everything that needs to be said has been said. If you want to keep being a fool completely ignoring whats in front of you, just continue as much as you please. Just offend everyone not agreeing with you.

Good luck with your matchmaking the next months, cause that and not your skill will decide over the batlle.

Or how the toasters say, “Who gets ausrine wins”

#34

Ausrine is not OP?
Ausrine can be countered?

This crap here shouldn’t even be possible:

And this was with playing 20% of the PVP times at most. Simply placing Ausrine wins you far more matches than you lose and as long as you play enough 1 skill, 1 press of a button gives you a top spot. What is your definition of “Overpowered”? Mine is exactly this.

Maybe IMC one day continues to adjust skills for PVP. Until then it’s the best idea to just don’t care about PVP here at all. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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#35

i almost fall on my seat reading this. you said it yourself, that’s a 3 sec lockdown, a 2 sec carving time, a second enough to get ausrine.

in that 1sec, what do you think can you accomplish? throw pears? R7? Counter Spell? Safety Zone? Bloodletting? something could be wrong if you’d able to do all that yourself. the player itself might be Godly, and not the skill itself. :joy:

please don’t give the sh*t that TBL is the 5v5, because that idea goes the same with the other team. and the fact that the issue here is only ‘Ausrine’. your Barking all your stuffs on the wrong Idea.

see? you just roast yourself, Meta Cleric Does, but not ausrine itself. got problem? go read the Title of this thread and roast yourself twice.

But you still lose, so tell us which scenario does your Team loses despite having ausrine?

no matter what, the answer is clear, it is not as perfect as this crie babies complains.

and oh. looking forward for you to reach another High rank this week, where TBL DC’s got fixed, as well as telepath stuck issues.

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#36

My, arent we agressive.

Ok lets dance a bit more, its easy to prove your halfassed arguments wrong anyways (since you just dont think them thorough)

Exactly. If theres a catagoon on the other side, R7. If theres a Kino, either just keep back and let the kino mforce your friends to counterspell the followed raise or just precast a counterspell in case theres more than one Kino. Bloodletting goes always without question. Same with prophecy.

There are only 2 classes being fast enough to rush the enemy, Kino and cata. And both are countered easily by the same cleric. (Lets assume for a second that teleporting out of your zone before the battle begins is intended and not a bug)

If you’re reaaaaally lucky you get both of them into one team. And even then its way easier for the cleric to manage these 2 classes by simply playing smartly. Yet again were at the “you need 2 specific classes out of 80 to counter 1” whos basically everywhere besides in your team.

Since you lack imagination and dont get it yourself, think about what happens if Ausrine falls off from these meta clerics. All other skills can be countered by everyone with a smart play. Its really +Ausrine that keeps it beeing problematic. Not ausrine alone.

Thats the heavy point you missed. To only adress “ausrine alone” as you said, a cleric has to stop lvling after r5. Only ausrine is beatable but still gives a heavy opportunity to the team as Sciguma showed over there (Besides, my ingame name is Sei and my charas are placed 2 and 3 on that screen, Sadhu&Cryo)

And in case you missed that point in your rage again:

Its not Ausrine alone whats a problem, its Ausrine on TOP of everything else a cleric throws at you what makes it a problem. Deleting Ausrine from that would turn the tides easily. If you ever played the game you would have known that.

#37

Bark on the wrong tree. gives me a concrete idea you weren’t able to comprehend anything here. first and foremost, read the Title of the Thread. secondly. what you were saying is the same as i was saying, ausrine is fine and nothing is wrong with it. bringing the third fact:

Your arguments are all invalid given first and second points you missed. the Idea of +ausrine wasn’t even here, hence it is only Ausrine, not ausrine being TOP of anything else.

again, read what you’ve just said and roast yourself the third time around.

But we’re talking about Ausrine alone on this thread, not something else place on top or over it. holy sh*t… here’s a cookie. and a little present for you.

(credits to vid owner)

edit1: OP should rename the thread to make your argument valid. (Ausrine on Top of other skill is the death of this games pvp)

edit2: Props to OP as he’s been the same person complaining about ausrine over and over again… i feel baited :angry:

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#38

And this makes it fine? Winning more than 80% by pressing one button is fine?
I am out. :joy:

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#39

Which is a situation never happening unless a rank5 enters tbl, which is not the norm. And thus, all your theorycrafting is pointless.

Ausrine never comes alone.

#40

and a little less 20% isn’t big? :sunglasses: we have our own beliefs but yes. it is fine as it is. anyways i’m out too, there is a better thread for this. it just need a little necromancy. see you around then :joy:

P.S: i still feel bad being baited by this OP :disappointed:

it does, with a less slight chance. again, i repeat. it does happen. so saying it’s impossible is too funny. but since you’ve said it yourself. a perfect server with perfect match making you got there mate.

‘Never Happening’ :joy:

edit1: we can hangout more on the other thread, i hate the fact that i was baited by this guy here. by all means, i had a good conversation and learn more stuff.

#41

We need @STAFF_Yuri in here. Someone needs to close the other ausrine threads to force discussion in one thread.