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Are you people even care for IMC and the game?

Agree, shelling the 50 bucks doesnt make you a bad person, but from other peoples standpoint it’s just a bad decisions to throw 50 bucks at a game when theres barely any information how its gonna be handled ( just take a look at subnautica where they clearly state what they working on and what not, not to mention its a much cheaper “early acess” because the product isnt finished)

Honestly i try to avoid early acess nowadays since the “Cube world debacle” where the game dev stopped saying anything for 2 years + no updates.

they never said that they wont use founder + pre headstart. Its a fact. So its not about what they said and what not

“Stand up boy and do smth for your money” assuming im a boy, assuming i have any money, assumptions assumptions, you also have to consider your country rules about stuff too, plus you dont know any of my condions atm. Like i said you cant just use your point of view on everything.

They did say “Open beta soon” then misterously after the founder thing, said post is now missing, if that’s not shady, I dont know what is. Also 3 months pre headstart is kinda silly if they wanna avoid bots and server stress, wich is one of the reasons open betas are made, to find ways to stabilize server and control the bots.

And you do realize your point is invalid?

The problem is never the money
The problem is, IMC doesn’t care consumer by giving us such a “surprise”

instead of " we don’t care imc and the game" stated by TS

I’m talking as civilized as possible here, dear somebody.
In some ways, I even want this game to be p2p, to reduce the amount of those filthy Chinese botters - gold sellers as much as possible.

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Same, if they had anounced that they decided to go B2P instead and maybe at a later date go F2P due to them needing some sort of income to fix bugs and what i wouldnt mind, what bugs me is the 3 month thing and that it is way overpriced when you can get dark souls 3 or pay 25 bucks for BDO online for that price.

Not exactly but it was what was assumed. Then many assume the same thing, it is as good as if its true.

Oh please, somebody.
It’s about the money, they need the goddamn money to keep their staff going. If they don’t have the money to pay the staff, then who are gonna fix those bugs for you guys?
They don’t care about the community? Before they care about the community, they need to care about themselves first.
What’s the point of caring for other people when you don’t even have anything to offer?

Sounds about right :smirk:

It’s your opinion to prefer P2P, and I agree it helps “reducing” the number of bots, but this isn’t the point of what happened yesterday.

Oh my God you are so retarded I can’t even begin to explain.

Nope. I’m not going to explain.

Amen to that, well said dude i got no complaints with that :smiley:

On another note though I gotta correct one train of thought which will likely hurt more then help. Imc is again a gaming business so their two things are customer service (Catering to their fanbase) and profit how you cant have one without the other. Of course 100% they’d remove a post about negative publicity about themselves on their website.

Nexon does it, Aeria Games Does it, OGPlanet does it, ijji does it too. Suprise, people don’t like bad press yet supposedly only imc has to burn to the ground cause of it? Lets get real here.

I’m sure if you had a particularly damning post on your facebook that you yourself posted you’d either remove it or edit it so you didn’t come across a certain way to new friends you add :confused: Again, bad moves but i can understand why they did it

Totally. Like i’ve mentioned in other posts, it is how badly you want to play the game and how much you are willing to let go for. If $50 can turn someone away from TOS, they are not a real fan. Lets not talk about affordability if anyone here has the luxury to click on the “Reply” button in order to refute me.

All it takes is a bunch of broke ass Brazilians to delay the game…

Thing is even if its removed, it’s the internet, people won’t forget and there will always be that trace that it existed, it’s best to just be upfront about it like FF14 old director did rather than slide it under the rug and pretend it’s not there anymore cuz u cant see it. It also lowers costumer trust in their company, wich is what’s happening right now with the people who decided not to pay right now ( I myself wont pay because im already spending money on dark souls 3 and have a budget to comply to since i dont have reliable income sources).

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Remenber that assassins creed game? the really buggy one that was barely playable? that was 50 dollars too, would you say it’s worth it?.

If people knew what they are paying 50 dollars for, your argument would make sense, but if u do so just to play the game and find a buggy mess, youl prolly just end up frustrated with it and wait 1-2 until said anoying bugs are fixed. There’s also the matter of the anouncement, like everyone is saying, it’s not just the money.

Do you live in Brazil?, Do you even know how their population lives? If not, go spend a month or more working in brazil and see how you fare, people need to stop being ignorant, just because ur living situation is fine, doesnt mean everyone is the same jeez.

Maybe you should seek medical help, sounds like you have a bad addiction :stuck_out_tongue: