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Archery on ToS. Thoughts?

Sure. It’s not stated that those are the best builds around, but the three major ones, on a debatable scenario.

Nope

I can see it working anyway, but it gives an awful early to mid levels to archers. Do you have any videos which can help us?

Videos from early or late stages of the game?

I agree with this thread. If you go full spr at start and then raise your dex, it could work, but i don’t think that is the point at all. The class obviously has a problem and if you look at the forums you can see many people are asking IMC to look into it. In the current state Archer is very straight forward, i find myself not choosing how i want to play but struggling trying to find the least worst build. It’s either you take the spr, oblique shot build in early or your gonna get punished. Just put an archer in a boss fight and it takes a hell lot of time and potions to kill anything. Our skills cost alot of SP, we dont have high hp or defense, we don’ t have high auto attack damage, we dont have a variety of strong AOE, we dont even have high single target damage, evasion doesn’t really make a difference.

Bottom line is, there is little to no reason to choose an archer class over any other class at the current state.

I had literally no problems with my archer at any point of the game. Level 90 currently, the early game was by far the easiest part.

Please share your build.

Any video you can get that can help us discussing the issue.

Full SPR from level 1, never had to buy SP pots, carried around campfires if it was absolutely necessary, but I recovered SP super quickly. Cleared areas incredibly fast.

Oblique Shot ~level 50 attribute. Was raising Steady Aim pre-nerf, around level 15. Barrage around level 40.

It’s mostly gear and attributes. If you gear properly and know what you want to do with your build, you won’t have problems.

I don’t think going full SPR is what Archer SHOULD be.
But I’m seeing that this builds is starting to get some use.

Made further updates into the first post.

And the little reason there is, is the free companion on hunter

The problem will be solved if we have even a nickle of ASPD (Attack Speed). Without that, we are forced to delegate some of our stats to SPR (so we can spam our skills) which is made worse by some of the skill cool-downs and their unholy SP requirements.

This makes archer mostly having a hybrid type build, with points delegated to STR, CON, SPR, and DEX (unless of course you are a good at evading and are able to juke all the mobs that go after you, in this case you can forgo CON)

This is just me, but when I play RPGs, I prefer not to divide my points to more than 2 stats (3 being the max).

extremely well put and composed threat, thank you for your work

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Yeah, I’m feeling that too. I mean, where we can focus on a primary and secondary stats on other classes, Archers are requiring investments on Str, Dex and Spr at the same time. We are physical-mages-who-crits, but we eat more mana and do less damage.
If the game isn’t focused or built around basic attacks (even for a single class) then we’ll need the Spr to spam skills, and mana potions. But our output on mana is too heavy for what our skills do.

If we had Attack Speed modifiers, maybe. Swift Step could give us 5% attack speed or something like that. Besides, Archer Circle 3 would become a thing if that’s true.

There was a KR streamer with nick name Riuna, I think he/she has a YT channel, but I can’t find it now. :confused:

Some videos posted on this forum already:


^ 2 Archers on a level 200 instanced dungeon (monsters stronger than normal),


^ the big monsters are elite type, they have a looot of HP.

There was a video from a Ranger+Rogue facerolling 2 high level bosses, but I can’t find it now. Tried everything I could on search function. TAT

I have a level 90 Archer on KR, full DEX. Sure it was awful to level up at first, but at level 65~ I had somewhat 75% crit chance (with Swift Step’s attribute) and enough natural SP pool to spam level 1 Oblique Shot. Just having a good weapon and skill enhance attributes is enough to do good damage.

I would probably do almost the same damage going full STR, but since I got Archer C2 I decided to focus DEX. If I went SPR I could get higher level of Oblique and also do more damage.
Either way, after I got a nice crit chance I started putting some points in CON since I felt very squishy, and then a little STR since I got Rank 4 meaning 30% bonus STR.

[quote=“gunlocksp, post:17, topic:99512”]
This makes archer mostly having a hybrid type build, with points delegated to STR, CON, SPR, and DEX (unless of course you are a good at evading and are able to juke all the mobs that go after you, in this case you can forgo CON)
[/quote]Well, any class benefits from alocating some points in different stats, not only Archers.
It’s a matter of you wanting to min~max or being balanced/safe.

[quote=“felipemsrj, post:1, topic:99512”]
-Ranger leveling… exciting.
[/quote]Both of those videos are bad examples…

In the first one the guy had level 1 Barrage and level 1 Anchoring, both with level 0 enhance attribute. Of course they would do trash damage.
The guy on the second video is 70 levels below and does twice the damage with Barrage… but his Anchoring also wasn’t leveled/enhanced and he used basic attacks too much.

[quote=“felipemsrj, post:19, topic:99512”]
but we eat more mana and do less damage.
[/quote]Another biased post.

So, has no one noticed kneeling shot range was nerfed and can only go as far a a normal auto attack? Even though no one is saying Archer is strong.

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We can see he went Archer - Quarel Shooter 3 - Sapper - Schwarzer Reiter
290 Str, 7 Con, 4 Int, 4 Spr, 160 Dex

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Actually its Archer C2 > QS C3 > SR - you can see he assigned kneeling shot to key 8. The one placing the traps was his other party member.

I wrote what it’s written on the page, but sure, my mistake on this one =)
Anyway, Kneeling Shot is the only skill from the Archer tree that you cannot use while mounted. Go figure out…

Now something’s weird, 로그 is Rogue and he wrote that’s what he took at rank 5? :confused: Anyways, I think he took kneeling shot as a means to level up quickly, though I could be wrong.

Oh, now that you talked, it’s spelled Logeu but they say it with a R. Rogeu. My basic-korean mistake.
Whatever he took at Rank 5, it doesn’t seem to be making a difference, unless he’s using passive skills.
But as you pointed, probably it’s Archer 2 - QS 3 - SR.