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Archer2 -> Hunter1 -> Next?

Honestly I do not have so many hardships with pet AI. You just have to know how to work around it. I admit that it’s not super comfy, but can be usable.

The rules basically are…coursing generally do not have many problems. It strikes what you target. Same for snatching and retrieve.
For Rush dog it’s another story, it will generally hit the closest target in the approximative direction of where you aimed. So mind if there’re mobs or traps in the way of the boss…it will generally hit those.

For all of the above, remember about the distances. You have to be close enough to the boss and at the same time close enough to the pet. If you hope that the pet listen to you while he’s far away, well…good luck. Same with target, don’t hope to be able to cast rush dog from the other side of the room. Those moves have a range too, after a bit you will get used to hit and pretty much never waste any skill.

Also…pet at begin is really weak. Both in atk and most of all resistance. Bosses at begin will pretty much oneshot it, but no big deal. Just try to get the timing of the atks, do not send your pet in when you see he’s about to do an AoE. So until it gets better (with levels and shitton of silver investement xD) play it carefully. And don’t try to skill when he’s stunned after dying obviously.

Pet isn’t that stupid (at least beside rush dog hitting the closest target instead of the aimed one, but that’s how the skill work…not much about pet AI). You practically manually control it, beside it’s auto atks, so it’s AI in the end amount to how well you can control it.
Main problem about the pet AI, that i encountered right now, is just when he sits down in one spot and stay there. And I do not mean with coursing…he just stands there. It’s a bit annoying, but just go to the pet window and turn it OFF/ON and it’s good to go.

I’m not saying it’s perfect, there’s room for big improvements for sure, but it’s not that much unmanageble.

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Imo for max snatching

  1. Flying boss
  2. Not many skill worth maxing. He left rush at low level prolly pet stat still won’t do much no matter how much you invest in it. Seems like most of her damage comes from coursing, retrieve and AA.

Do update your level, rush level and rush damage review please.

I’m almost hunter c2 and most probably going for fletcher c3.

I think hunter c3 can offer amazing experience in earth tower with Growling. I mean, you can fearlock mobs and be happy. Or is it not work?

Scout c3 can be very useful with split arrow. I really dunno what’s better. My goal is pvp, and I really want hunter c2 for retrieve and hounding (will have a lot archer scout invi in pvp/gvg, and hounding will counter them, low cd).

The main problem with pets AI is: they always stay behind or atacking wrong target. When you use any skill aim target, always he hit wrong/closest target. So, if you want disarm a specific class in battle, even aim target the specific class, the pet will got wrong target. This will be frustrating.

Topic: I have some options for pvp content

  1. Archer c2 > Hunter c2 > Fletcher c3
  2. Archer c2 > Hunter c3 > Falconer c2
  3. Archer c2 > Hunter c2 > Scout c3
  4. Archer c2 > Hunter c3 > Falconer c1 > Musktr c1 or Cannon c1
  5. Archer c2 > Hunter c2 > Scout c1 > Falconer c1 > Musktr c1 or Cannon c1
    I really dunno what I’ll do x_x

More one thing: the hunter skills have low range (or the pet will not respond and you will lose the cd). Its very annoying move to close of the mob to use skills.

Sure.

I’m a Hunter C3 lv128

Rush Dog lv15(+2):

It does around 2k to 2.8k damage at my level.
The damage cannot be avoided or blocked by shield/guard/barrier.
The 2-handed bow attribute doesn’t work with Rush Dog vs flying mobs.
Rush Dog only deals 1 damage to structures, regardless of being a multi-hit skill.

Extra:

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@Anarth
How is Hunter c3 to lvlup? I mean, is it pain, no? AI pet is really annoying, and mana issue with archer is real.
What build you will do? See my options and help me decide mine build pls hahaha!

@rausnobrega

Let’s see…Right now I’m an Archer C2 -> Hunter C3.

I have no AoEs to make use of Growling so I can say that I’m having a harder time to level up.

Since I started the game I decided to build a long-term investment class, I play at my own pace so I’m good with it.

My build will only shine at 180ish, when I get Falconer.

If you want a build that has a stable leveling pace from the start to the end, I don’t recommend hunter at all.

Hunter is amazing for picking off, but since it lacks reliable AoEs you won’t grind as fast as rangers, sappers, fletchers, etc.

As for my build. Right now I’m STR > DEX > CON though I have plans on being bulkier than most archers so at some point I assume I’ll go for STR > CON > or = DEX with plate armor.

You won’t have SP problems if you manage your pool well, you can always get headgears with SP regen enchants too.

@Anarth

Got it, but…
I can understand the questions about non-AoEs, and Its not problem to me. I don’t plan play it alone. But, is falconer the best choice? I mean, falconer have 1 or 2 aoe skills with mid-dmg. Is circling working well?
I’m in doubt between falconer c2 ; hunter c2 > scout c3 ; or fletcher c2 in end path.
Falconer you will need spend 450k silver to buy pet X_X
My goal is pvp, then I can’t choose wrong.

Quick Question: Hounding see invi players (scout, shinobi)?

@rausnobrega

If I’m not wrong, once you become a falconer you receive a companion ticket that lets you get one for free.

Circling turns multishot into an AOE, Hovering is a decent addition to an already sustained single-targeted output and Pheasant is…okay I guess.

Hounding detects hidden targets, so I assume that not only you are able to see it but it also dispells the invisibility buff. I haven’t gone too far to check that out but I’ll take that into consideration once I get more class levels!

Linker is a Hunter’s best friend :slight_smile:

@Anarth
Do you won ticket when you choose hunter? I don’t got nothing. I needed buy =/
I’ll check that info about ticket chossing falconer.

@rausnobrega

are you a falconer already?

@Anarth
No no, hunter c1 yet. I’ve plan be falconer…

@rausnobrega sorry, I misread.

When you become a hunter you DO get a pet ticket (velheider), check your inventory for it.

I got mine when I first became a hunter.

Thanks a lot :smiley:
I guess I’ll be getting lvl 10 rush from initial lvl 5 rush

I forgot to mention that I didnt spend any money on the pet’s attack attribute, since Rush Dog scales with that stat, increasing it will also increases the damage.

and…you are welcome.

Thanks a lot, @Anarth .
Scout and hunter don’t have any synery. Both have fear and detect hidden enemys. And you will be invi, but your pet no hahaha.
I’ll try Fletcher or Falconer.
Maybe possible hunter c3 with cannon.

I plan on Scout c3 with Hunter c2. I admit there isn’t much synergy. Mostly because you are either dependent on the pet or ignore it.

Currently, I’m A1 > R1 > H1 and I use the pet for last line of defense. Mostly because the best way to hit a desired target is to get close. So, I will spam OS, RushDog, Barrage and CS rarely. I usually use Steady aim before Barrage. If anything gets through that I use Coursing or RushDog for support. I imagine when I turn Scout I can use full draw, flu flu and flare shot combo at best. Everything else would be the same till Scout 3. Also, retrieve is supposedly really good, over rush dog. I saw a video of a pet dragging two monsters at once. I plan on getting Hunter c2 at rank 7.

As for PVP / GVG, hmm… lets just hope the pet AI gets fixed to attack a target not the nearest player. Otherwise I will have to sneak cloak next to someone to attack with Rush Dog or Retrieve. I’m not a fan of Multi Shot thats why I chose R1 over A2 for the skills (Only thing I want is Swift Step Attr and higher OS everything else is a bonus). I can spam CS and RushDog (Aside from OS / Split Arrow) in pvp as my high damage skills in combo with full draw / coursing / pointing effects. Set traps with flare shot in GVG, knock back with full draw or barrage. Also, when Scan is in CD, I can use hounding to do the job. Still this will work way better when the Ai gets fixed, hopefully.

This is a real pet dependent build. I realized the other day I could have gone OS with less Crit Rate / Efficient SP, instead of CS with more Crit Chance / Sp Usage. I said, “oh Well, at least I got Barrage and Steady Aim for company.”

@bczmarts

In Korea patchs, nothing changed about AI pets. They will fix it only after a long time I believe. Right now, bot’s with hackes are dominating the game. They have others priorities like kill the bots.
Second them

@Anarth

Can you tell me if Retrieve is a cc like Coursing? Is it disable enemy? Works on player? And have any bug like Coursing?

@rausnobrega it stuns.

Stun for 9s in lvl 5?
Is it work on pvp/player?
Is it buged like coursing?