Hi, guys. So I made a new Archer and decided to go full DEX, but there’s a friend of mine, who also made a new Archer. He said he found a build online, which is Full SPR. I find it absolutely ridiculous that an Archer would go Full SPR. Though he’s level 43 currently, and I’m 53, but his damage seems to be higher than mine? I don’t know, give your thoughts about it, please? I dodge the monsters very often since my eva is high, but then again, his Max SP is huge, I always run out of sp. Tell me which one do you think is better, and don’t just say it, give me reasons. Thanks before. ^^
Just eat your SP pots and laugh at his pathetic damage and evasion
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DEX, STR or a mix of both with some CON, depending on your class build.
Don’t listen to him - either he has a stat reset potion, or he’s gonna be forced to reroll later on when he realizes how sh!tty his build is.
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Full SPR is an obsolete build from beta when +SP recovery and +max SP headgear enchants did not exist. You can get 80+ SPR worth of sp from headgear enchants alone which is enough for most skill-spam based classes.
There were a few pure SPR archers back in iCBT, that’s because the max level was 200 and people could Oblique Shot their way to max. Now, MP isn’t really an issue with all the pots the quests give and you’re gonna need more than Oblique Shot in the meta. MP pots shouldn’t seem too expensive when you’re higher level too. Also, SP Recovery hair costumes.
Full DEX isn’t the best thing either, unless you can effectively use Kneeling Shot in the brunt of fights, which most likely won’t be the case. A mix of STR, DEX and a bit of CON is a more ideal stat build (Or pure STR and just use gears/gems to increase crit rate).
The damage difference between a full SPR and DEX archer isn’t any different since neither stat increases base damage (except DEX for Kneeling Shot) so the only reason your friend is hitting higher than you is from gear.
if he know what he is doing then it will be good. if he doesn’t know what he is doing then… good luck to him.
as far as I know if this game will still exist 5-10yrs, CON SPR archer may be a future build. after all Dex crit rate can be compensated by Green gems picking fletcher compensate the lack of damage.
there is a reason why there is Zero Cool down on some archer skill… that’s because SPR build really exist. but making SPR type right now is not recommended… you need to be rich … incredibly rich to atleast make an impact to the community.
if you take critical shot on ranger and rich enough to full it’s attribute you have extra 1.1k crit attack. and you don’t even need that much dex to have high crit chance.
if you are rich enough to have lvl 10gems on all your weapon and sub weapon that’s an extra 300 crit rate for you… put 2 sissel and that’s additional 74 crit you don’t even need to be wary about sissel -88 defense since you are CON type too. while having extra 235 damage.
the idea of CON SPR type of archer is someone who can take down wiz class and cleric without being killed so fast by other archer classes. they can even handle killing a tank with their high block penetration.
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I have a question regarding m.def, since SPR give some.
Adding 9~10 points into SPR give you 4m.def.
This is as much as 4-star blue gem can give, and its worth an free upgrade on your amulet or ring.
With enchanting it could be even possible to reach a state when magic attacks will do very insignificant dmg if you were SPR build.
Imo high m.def and evasion would be better then high con.
But is that 4m.def insignificant? How much does it change?
Anyone considered going SPR build for the m.def and block penetration?
Right now i see people doing 30 CON builds.
I think i will go 20 CON and 10 SPR, for that extra 4m.def.
However i don’t know what impact it has on the dmg i receive.
Say, there is that nice shield with 40 m.def - i prefer using it over the shield from 90 dungeon, because with it i feel like taking far less hits from magic types wich is worth more then those extra 1600 hp.
Ranged? i evade, melee? I kite. Magic? I take those hits like a boss.
What do you guys think?
I don’t deny that going STR is great because of how it scales, but how does m.def scale to the dmg you take from magic?
And if i can get gems for evasion/crit rate, then maybe i could go STR+SPR build?
SPR is the worse stat in this game. So if you mistake put one point to as an archer you may want to reroll later
That’s dumb. If the game ever go the point where you can cap crit from gears alone (which I highly doubt), you put points in STR instead.
You’re also contradicting yourself. If you’re so rich that you can get max attributes and gears, SP shouldn’t be an issue anymore.
Well archers with high SPR are popular back in the days because some people tend to max out their Oblique shot.
Well both stats doesn’t really have any effects on your raw damage output (means not including critical). It could be that he was running a max level skills while you are not. Or he could have leveled his skill attribute damage.
Also I’d like to give you a tip. Don’t ever go to full dex especially in lower levels, your crit rate will not scale well against the crit resist of the monsters. And if you plan on staying PvE, high dex is always better than high str. But if you want to do PvPs it would be otherwise.
I can go more if you wanna ask more questions. Don’t be shy.
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it’s best to have a bit of everything, con gives more then hp alone, having a high defense will make you very tanky vs dots, small hits. For burst skills with one hit you’ll defently need con to survive.
also healing skills from cleric/priest scale with your max hp.
Something that people also tend to forget about SPR is that it makes you
resist cc effects more.
But the thing is, the main stats should be str/int/con because they scale
with ranks… Only clerics can get away with a pure spr build atm because they have skills that are based on spr that benefit the party.
SPR/DEX is a PvP build, I think you need healthy amounts of Dex, CON, and SPR to be viable.
SPR is completely worthless in pve though. You might as well just put points into Int.
a lot of people have been all about full stat build. Seriously just put 40 point in SPR (especially early to spam oblique) then leave it as it to the end of the game then put all your point to str and dex in the most efficient way. Put some con if you are getting one shot by boss in dungeon or want to pvp.
No, please, dont.
Early game spam? You got TONS of free SP potions, you cant even use all the free potions you got.
You can hit lvl 100 ~ 150 and STILL have this free sp potions.
lol.
Not really, most Archers I’ve met either has an STR/DEX build, or with a little CON. I’ve never met an Archer that goes full DEX.