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Archer Construction Doubts

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hi guys! I decided to main an archer and I have some doubts. For background, I am mostly a solo player focused on PvE (farming and bossing), please!

I decided to main an Archer 2 > QS3 > Falc 1 > X > X. For skill distribution, until now I made like this:


There are 2 points lasting on Archer 2 and 14 points lasting on Quarrel Shooter 3 that I’d like recommendations about.

For stats, I thought about 30~50 CON, rest DEX, stacking Red Gems and Glass Mole 10*, but I don’t know if this is the optimal distribution.

For ranks 7 and 8, I’m concerned between Musketeer and Cannoneer. I’d like to see your opinions about both ranks minding the actual Rank 8. Any sugestion is welcomed!

Thank you for your attention!

EDIT LOG: optated for only PvE, hybrid sucks haha

#2

With the build you are going. You can only go PVE.

For a2 wise you woulda want higher full draw.
For QS you will want stone shot at max and stone pick at 2/3

Falconer is the actual X that leads to PVP OR PVE. Scout for PVP and Falconer for PVE.

Discarding A2 will mean you are on a road to bank millions into crit rate as you need swift steps c2. To reduce cost and stats effectively.

PVP stats and PVE stats are totally different. SO you pretty much can only pick 1 type of build you are going to.
For PVP it’s pretty much a anti block/ Heavy block pen or a anti dodge/ high accuracy.

If you want to choose the best of both worlds go cleric.

#3

Thanks for answering. Well, If I have to choose, I stick to PvE. Minding this, what do you suggest me about my previous doubts? Remaining points on A2 - QS3, stat distribution and Rank 7/8 choice.

#4

For a2 wise you woulda want higher full draw.
For QS you will want stone shot at max and stone pick at 2/3

stats wise depends on how much are you banking on crit gear and gems and funding you have.

If you want to have optimal for PVE i did say hitting 780~ ish crit rate via equipment + swift steps at least that woulda mean at least 330 Total dex.

The rest is free form. Points to take note.
Hp isn’t that relevant now. Gears/Gem do provide up to 10-15k HP. itself. It is more than sufficient for most archers to survive with this hp pool (20k)

I have a 0 con musketeer with 20k hp. so pretty much go figure for now.

IF you are into cannoner ( cannoner is currently suffering like QS2) Which have lack luster C2, but it’s pretty the same as musketeer a stand alone class.

Musketeer have limitation is easily cap and turn into a high risk high reward close range gunner.

Musketeer do have a issue with weapon swap “lag” and this is even visible with 5 ping / ms Due to shietty coding of the game. So prepare to ditch xbow and go main on rifles.

So if you are banking on Cannoneer with falconer it’s pretty much a spam AOE builds.

Musketeer is into more Single target orientated. Circling is the only key to provide aoe for musketeer.

This is the insights. I have both and it’s up to your choice which you are siding to.

Do not bank on QS as your primary circle it does fade now. It’s pretty much a fill in class now in between CD.

Like using Running shot inbetween CD of your main damaging skills.

#5

Solved most of my doubts. Well, I’ll keep leveling and postergate the R7/8 class choice haha. Thanks so much for replying!

#6

Cheers whichever you choose hope you will enjoy it.

#7

More doubts surged at the middle of night. Now I am lvl 94, using a +8 Grand Cross (Red Gem lv 5 x2) + Arde Dagger (Yellow Gem lv 5). Can I stick with it until 220 to change it for a DGC+Manamana? Gem wise, Red or Yellow ones?

#8

yeah, you can. If i can manage to go lv 220 with +0 white equipment, you will too.
Yellow gems

#9

there no issue with sticking to white or GC till 220.

Just remember that you will need to hammer at least to +5 on main weapons.

If you are going Musketeer just consider aiming for finisher for now. Unless you want to bank on eme musket (orange 315 bis) or dragon piper.

You can drop DCG + Manamana bis as a musketeer. As there’s not really much of a point to use DCG+Manamana just for running shot later.
Weapon swap lags/delay is irritating.

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#10

You edited whatever you had about pvp in the first post but needing scout to pvp as archer is a lie, Klaipeda 5v5 rank after last tbl:

the next in the ranked archer (at 16 or 17 idk) is a sr, so no scout also.
my scoutless build

QS3-Falco is much better than QS3-Scout for pvp, you can use running shot and hanging shot to hit people while flying. Just be sure to have enough dex so you don’t miss all your hits like some rogues and enough con to not get one shot by inquisitors and you are good to go.
Don’t go cannon c2 unless you enjoy suffering.

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#11

You still can get one shotted while flying.

It’s not really invulnerable. As compare to scout you can just re position on cloaking.
Which does have counter. Like rain ETC.

It’s a free surprise buttsecks.

Either way you will not win any one with invulnerability half the time.
Also both of them still suffers issue to kabbalist r7fold etc.

PVP is about outsmarting and having “Higher tier equipment since it’s not standardize”.
These day not much people PVP anyway.

P.S my server is flooded with doctors. inquisitor and block turrets.( Cata shields) so… din’t bother on TBL h4h4

#12

You can still get one shot while cloaked too, the difference for a QS3 is that you can keep attacking with hanging shot while you break your cloak in the first hit.
Everyone suffers against r7 and ausrine, thats why there are 7 clerics in the top10 and 3 archers in the top 50 (sages to blame too).

#13

Which i highlighted lel.

The recent changes to hanging shot + RS was great. Scout does do better half the time and is more efficient in taking out highlighted target i guess?

Still TBL and PVP + GVG is pretty much tree of clerics -_-

#14

The problem with scout is that every match, and i’m not exaggerating literally all my matches, have kabbas in it and that by itself makes Cloaking useless because you don’t get to finish someone with a burst from cloak.
You need to wait their ausrine run out, hanging shot is good at keeping you safe during it, then remove the r7 or wait for your team to remove the r7 and just then you can start the killing so in the end Cloaking gives no advantage because as you said its tree of clerics.
Cloaking is good for 2v2 tho, but that also depend on the scout stats, i’ve faced scout cannons with low dex that would blast from cloaking and miss just to get a counter blast and die.

#15

Unbalance PVP. Scrap pvp idea you are good :^).

welp (thank god i am not into pvp)

#16

Why? What does higher levels of Full Draw do? Isn’t FD only used for CC?

#17

0 charge time.test it and you will know.

#18

Ah, where you can just tap it?

#19

yup @_@…