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Archer C3>Scout C1>Ranger C3

Class and Rank Archer
#1

I want to try maximizing raw physical damage by relying on high critical chance and Kneeling Shot buff. You can see the build here. I am well aware that it may be a complete joke because I am not too knowledgeable about the game (just playing around with skill calculator like in good old WoW TBC days).

I’ve looked into what other people are doing and I feel like the leading trend is to rely on skill damage. But will it be viable in the end-game? Also, I feel like there are very little synergy between different archer classes (at the very least, something like musketeer + archer doesn’t look very good from the aesthetics perspective). Anyway, I tried something different. Not sure if it work out though. I’ve heard that you can’t change class midway so I’m wondering whether someone can share their insight on this topic to help me make a more safe choice.

#2

if you reallt want to do that , take the c3 ranger first, it will help you leveling.
and take cannonner or musketeer at r7, they are mandatory in a build, their skills scale verry well at high lvl, and do toons of dmg.

If you wanna play kneeling shot, with auto attacks you will need to take quarell shot c3, for running shot.
you can use it to improve kneeling shot auto attacks by a lot, its called a turret build^^ ( or a bot build xD )

#3

For Auto Attack player go Archer 2 > QS 3 > Scout/Falconner (PvP/PvE) > Musketeer/Cannoneer (PVP/PVE). Kneeling shot 5 is more than enough.

Full burster go Archer 2> Ranger 3 >Scout/Falconner (PvP/PvE) > Musketeer

If you want a Mind Game build go Archer 3 with Heavy Shot 10 > Scout 3 > Musketeer/Cannoneer

#4

On icbt I tested an archer with kneeling shot. It was so nice to see the Attack speed and the power of it.

However, being unable to move is bad for survival, but if you have a supporter that can keep you alive you’ll be a killing machine.

It was so powerful, with the right stats and equips, that a high density spot was cleaned and no monster was in my vision.

And it’s totally useless in dungeons.

#5

Can you alleviate the need for support character by control abilities like Flu Flu (Fear) or Full Draw (Skew)? I want something that is viable for solo play so I may need to revise my build depending on this factor. From what I’ve understood while reading the posts above, this setup is really situational and requires a somewhat unbalanced investments (like upgrading QS to C3 for the sole purpose of taking a Running Shot) that I don’t like.

#6

kneeling shot without running shot , is in simple words : almost totaly useless

if you wanna play kneeling shot, you will NEED qs3

#7

When you use Kneeling Shot, you are locked on auto attacks.
To use a skill you must cancel the kneeling stance, which is a terrible thing for me :frowning:

If you really want raw physical damage, i would go:

Archer -> Ranger C3 -> Fletcher C2 -> Musketeer

#8

It seems like it’s not a very good build when taking your suggestions into account so I’ll probably look into the other option that I like: Archer C3 > Scout C3 > Something. By the way, how stance change works? Is it instantly available in combat so I can freely change between something like Canon and Bow depending on the task at hand?

#9

It’s almost the same as sit to rest.
You activate Kneeling Shot, you kneel down (really?) and can’t move, all other skills are locked until you reactivate to get up.

Also, I don’t think Scout C3 will be good for damage purposes…
Flu flu deals small damage, flare shot is damn hard to maximize the damage and the AoE is small. Split arrow seems great, but I haven’t seen in-game.

Ranger’s Bounce shot hits more targets, but Split Arrow seems to do more damage. At rank 6 (Scout C3), Fletcher’s Crossfire will deal more damage

If you still want to go Archer C2/C3, maximize Multi-shot, if you pick Ranger, Steady Aim, Barrage, Bounce Shot and Spiral Arrow

#10

scout c3 isnt worth it.
in your idea of build split arrow isnt that great.
It is verry good and have the advantage to not have CD, so you can spam it, but your mana wont follow you.
so that makes it "unusable’ in a way.

i have an idea of build that “could” work with scout c3, but dont have the strengh to explain it in details right now, if you really want i’ll make a build for it later.

#11

I’ll post here once again (Its the 3rd time I post those links). because everytime people says that Archer 3 > Scout 3 isn’t good or isn’t worth.

She was the top 1 pvp player (I don’t know which Korean server is or if she’s still the top 1) and can win tons of 2v2/5v5 fights only with intelligence and mind game. Heavy Shot 10 hits like a truck and push back enemies, Split Arrow is another godess skill if you have 2 or 3 enemies together.

2v2 fight:

5v5 fight:

#12

she almost never use split arrow. she basicly play with heavy shot , and use it to separate her target from the healers.
she uses cannon blast as a burst/one shot skill.
beside that , se uses siege burst to do some out of screen dmg.

i dont see why she doesnt play archer c2/rangerc3/scout/cannonner
that way she could profite of steady aim to reinforce the dmg of hers heavy shot to almost the same as lvl 10 heavyshot(for less mana)
while having a hugh boost on her cannon blast to one shot , and other skills.
se can even have spiral arrrow as a good single target finisher.

#13

But this is your theory, or you already tested this build on PvP ?
If you have tested, record and show us :slight_smile:

I found this video and she was Top 1 with this build. If we have no videos of Ranger C3 > Scout > Cannoneer, this is only speculation. If this build was really nice, we would have a lot of videos from people using on PvP.

#14

that’s just my ‘logical’ point of view.

I dont see any reason that it isnt better than scout c3, if someone can prove me wrong , i’ll be happy to learn some things^^

but its just an idea, you can just considere it in your build ideas, its good enough for me :stuck_out_tongue: