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Archer AA build?

Since i am a proud owner of A2 Hunter3 already… i was wondering about AA build (ping is not an issue):
either

A2>H3>Wugu>Cannoneer3, for that tasty extra line that wugus will get on Zhendu
or
A3>H3>Cannoneer3 - to fully utilize Kneeling shot’s potential (full dex)
or
A3>H3>Wugu>Cannoneer2, but wont be able to use Bazooka’s veteran attribute with this.

Any suggestions, corrections, criticism?

P.S. i know that there are better builds of doing this but i’m already hunter3 and want to stay that way.

Why dont you go musketeer? Since you don’t wanna give up on hunter you wont have running shot, but you’ll still have

Swift step + zhendy + groovlin muzzle + sniper’s serenity + kneelight shot

Crit rate, extra-line of damage, ignoring armor, chance to hit 3x, maximum damage output because of snipers serenity and extra range-damage-crit rate of kneeling

i’m just curious about Kneeling shot + Cannoneer skills’ synergy (3rd attribute of kneeling shot that requires cannoneer2)

You’ll either use kneeling and have more crit rate on cannonner skills

or

You’ll use bazooka and lose crit rate, but gain % damage on cannonner skills

You can’t use both (at the same time) anyway

Zhendu and enchant fire cancel each other out. Enchant fire scrolls are way cheaper than spending a rank. Add to that how badly the values of zhendu got nerfed, it’s not worth it anymore.

All A3 gets you is 25 more c.rate and 50 eva. Kneeling shot will never out perform bazooka’s raw damage. Kneeling shot is 10% more c.rate for a chance to do 50% more damage. Bazooka straight up doubles your damage all the time. Even at full DEX the 1:1 atk conversion from kneeling won’t even be close.

Unless zhendu changes again, (IMHO) your best bet is A2-Hu3-x-Ca3. If you rather manage bugs than scrolls, go wug.

Idk if I’m wrong about this but you can’t AA with your cannon in Kneeling? Pretty sure it’s just mainhand. Also there was never a moment where I found Kneeling Shot to be more effective than Bazooka stance.

Only in Bazooka can you AA with your Cannon. Running Shot works with your Cannon causing the auto to hit twice. It’s really good. Especially since our AA are AoE. Basically there’s ‘kneeling shot’ built into Cannoneer.

All other lines are generated afterwards too. Cafri/Mana, Enchant Fire, and whatever else. Running shot just benefits Auto Attackers that use main-hand and Bazooka stance that turns our cannon into a 'pseudo main-hand"

H3 grants extra damage and that’s always a plus to what a Cannoneer is about. Burst Damage. You’re going to be Auto attacking regardless when clearing and weaving autos on top of your skills since our cool downs a semi short, but in Bazooka a lot of skills become unusable as you can see, and it’s the same way with Kneeling.

Bazooka will most likely out-scale every Crit in kneeling so I wouldn’t recommend it. Maybe if Cannoneer got another attribute which combined the benefits of kneeling with Bazooka stance.

I want a source for this. I wont buy it without the proof.
It hasnt been changed yet to act like a fire enchant (mechanic-wise, doesn’t/shouldnt mean it cancels it out).

If we get it unchanged I wouldn’t bother. I had a A2-Hu3-SC1-Ca3 and reset it to A1-Qs3-Ro2-Ca3 for a faster/stronger AA version. Was planning to squeeze in wug then I saw this.

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thanks.

/20ponderingpopos

Isit just me or haste & investment in dex points do not increase AA canon’s atk speed?

I would say so. I dumped 300 stats into DEX for an AA cannoneer and didn’t get an increase in aspd. Then again I have 200+ ping so I can’t be sure.