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Archer 3> Wugu 2> Falco 3> Mergen, bad idea?

Greetings,

I’ve been playing this game for a month or two, pretty hooked on it. Fell in love with the archer class because I’m into fast AA, and good AoE.

I’ve been using Falconer lately, I’m using a popular build of QS3 Falco BM, but something about BM doesn’t really sit well with me.

I love the double gun stance, but that makes me basically forget about crossbow. Not to mention I need to invest in 2 weapons.

My hawk is basically doing the kills while I shoot 15k per attack. I have full dex build, so yeah trying to get all crit on it, but it’s kinda tough when you’re surrounded by mobs and waiting for Pheasant or Bullet Overdrive cooldown. Also, BO is sorta wonky for me, sometimes it kills off mobs sometimes mobs just got scratched by it.

But I heard wugu got some new buff, so I’m curious how it’ll work with Falco mergen.

I saw a build here http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5l9ixdf7yo/

Sorry, I basically wrote an essay here. Thanks for the reading, please let me know if you think this build would go well, or just any build you’d think would go better.

*I also kinda miss the point of QS3 since the only skill I like to use in it is Running Shot.

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Actually, anything with Falc3->Mergen is a good idea, even Hunter3 works with it.

But you said:

Your build will lean towards a non-AA, good aoe, a fair boss damage build, because iirc, wugu’s poison scales in str (correct me if im wrong). Also, poison do not crit.

Falc3->mergen gameplay would be to cast everything on other classes while falc and mergen skills are on downtime. QS3 is a popular filler on this because you’re basically just AA-ing your way until the skill’s cd replenishes on your falc and mergen. I’m not a wugu myself, but a sapper-rouge, so i can’t tell vital points on getting wugu, but if you enjoy wugu’s skill while your main damage skills are on cooldown, then go with it.

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Thanks! If I had to choose between AA and AoE I’d use AoE since it synchronise better with my hawk. It’s just preference and aesthetics.

Also, noted on the part with “casting everything on other classes while both class skills are on downtime”, I may need to Google some YouTube vids on that.

Thanks for your insight!

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Change BM to Mergen. Keep qs3 if you like fast AA. If you like full dex gameplay and critting Wugu may not be a good idea. Poison doesnt crit and scales of str

Also reconsider your build if you can think it through. Ranger is pretty strong now

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Actually, using an autoattack build on a Falconer C3 is detrimental to your character. The reason is because you can get 100% crit chance when Pre-emptive Strike is active as long as the enemies are at full health.

Since autoattacks are weak per se, they will not cause the demise of the enemies but instead, they will cause the 100% crit chance to be wasted.

Especially as a full DEX build (i.e. high crit attack = high damage with crits), it would be better to use strong attacks to fully benefit from the Pre-emptive Strike attribute. Cannoneer and Musketeer would make better use of that benefit, even Mergen with its multi-hit skills does not really benefit from the Falconer boosts.

About Wugushi: it’s basically a single-target bossing boost for your build. Nothing good aside bossing coming here (especially since you need STR for Zendhu boost to be effective for autoattack boost).

All in all, it’s possible to build that way, but your build is not going to be the way you want it to be.
You have to either compromise for AoE damage(Falconer>Mergen/Cannoneer/Musketeer),
full bow damage boost(Ranger>Fletcher>Mergen) or autoattack build (QS3>whatever) for the best outcome, otherwise you’'ll be a badly performing jack of all trades…

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In my experience archers aoe skills have too long of a cool down or cannot hit flying monsters. Archer have better single target bursts than other class trees. AA builds are good if the. Mobs or boss have rly high def/mdef because you can rely on flat dmg buffs like blessing.

If you want aoe. Wizards are a better choice.

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@twko1989 yup yup, not to mention their higher ranks skills are very SP consuming (or at least from my experience). Thus I mainly play AA archer builds like QS-falc or Schwarzer reiter.

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ehh archer1/ranger3/fletcher3/mergen 2 isnt that bad on mana normal sp pots from the merchant handles that easily normally in a full power bow build u can 2 shot most mobs without even trying so if u want a little bit of both just try the build out it does fairly well on bosses and can farm with no issues with barely any gear investment ranger and fletcher skills and buffs they received too strong atm @.@

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Do you know what you are saying…?

I tried the Oracle master mission on that build and while trash mobs on lower levels easily dies with even a simple AA, have you seen a high level run? That build literally will make you consume sp pots, both lv15 and even NPC ones, on every cooldown when you start around level 30. When you got high hp mobs and you spam every skill you have, this build takes way too much SP. I tried that on a geared main during rank reset, +22 bow all gears trans10 lmost all skills max attrib, + all camp food buffs. So no, you’rr wrong. The ktos meta build, on long dps runs, will consume way too much SP

For single target bursts, no it is not archers. I will give that to swordsmen like fencers or shinobis.

Archers are more of in the middle. On top of that your effectiveness is based on how you make your build, its synergy among rank classes you pick, and your skill rotations. Not every archer class is currently playeable though.

never had mana issues in my 360 levels of lvling… nor in cm… nor in 300 dungeon… nor in velcoffer… or miki… idk what ur talking about my dude. some of my gears have the unfortunate rng to have spr on them but every single piece has str and spr for some reason so again i never had mana issues still dont have mana issues.

stop trying to be the top dps in the party cuz u prob wont be if at all. the OP wanted something that is decent in all aspecs of the game well this is it unless u wanna go the meta AA build like every other thousand other archers thats his choice.

  1. 360 levels of leveling? You mean running dungeons which take a few minutes like a joke?
  2. running content with a party that include other dps that puts makes you not utilize full rotations?
  3. pointing out you dont have sp issues when you yourself know you got +spr in your gears?
  4. no one is trying to be the top dps here nor have mentioned it
  5. if you want to help OP, then why the heck mention ktos meta build when he was asking about falco3 mergen?

u realize majority of the non meta slaves use that ktos build here right just fine without any of the issues u are mentioning u and 3 other ppl out of the thousands that play this game mention mana issues. U can easily solve them without much of an issue yea i had the unfortunate luck to get spr on pieces of gears but yet that unfortunate luck has helped me be able to spam my skills without worry so maybe its worth looking into maybe u should try it.

That’s true. I would say if any wizard, Archer, swordies are at the highest lvl of enhancement and trans, the dmg output would be about the same. Both swordies and archers can burst out chunk of damage in short amount of time while wizards takes slightly longer.