I already have the ranger 3 variant, thing is i would like to try it out, but i would like to know everyones opinions before invsting time to do this. (Some of my guildmates are rushing lvl 217 dg so i am gonna use that to farm werewolf cards)
Has anyone tried this variant using werewolf cards? If yes, how is it performing? How does it compare to the ranger 3 variant?
If you dont have it, what do you think about this?
Don’t have one, but AFAIK and have read from other people’s inputs here on the forums, if you go Rogue1 with an Archer build, you can forgo Archer2 since your crit rate will now rely on Sneak Hit rather than Swift Step’s crit rate boost attribute. This also allows you to invest more in STR for more DPS especially once you hit SR2 and do party-based content (end-game grind, ET, Uphill, WB, etc.).
As far as tests with Werewolf + Sneak Hit synergy goes, here’s some nice info:
Werewolf card is indeed making A1 Rogue1 a viable build now. Have fun!
SS atribute helps to get the crit chance i am gonna be missing (51% crit chance currently and in rank 8 it will be 44% crit chance) and Multishot can be turned into a very good AOE with the help of aoe ratio gear and buffs.
Multishot’s good.
As far as crit goes, you’ll be guaranteed 70% crit chance with Sneak Hit no matter how much crit resistance an enemy has as long as you have a decent stack of lv10 Werewolf card. At R7 alone with a full lv10 cards stack (x7), it’s 70% chance to register rear attacks.
If you like building DEX and having evasion though, Archer2 would suit you better.
Though i really like rogue, why are you mixing it with archer2? I know its not exactly easy to get the werewolf cards but at least is something to do.
And i do quite well with running shot + sneak hit on boss fights already without archer2, dont know why people favor archer2 so much. Even for skillspamming build rogue will be worth it, i believe(at least i will know when i get there).
For better crit chance. What, you think ranger 3 rogue 1 would be better idea?
Well… yeah though i get why are you doing it now. The way i see it, while sneak hit is for boss fights, swift step is for grinding and farming but… A 25% chance is even that useful for that? People do it, and it wont be wasted but i prefer 70% when i need to do damage.
You could use both sure though to me it seems redundant when you got the possibility to do 70%, so i would go for steady aim or something else.x
Correction: Swift Step will boost your CURRENT CRIT RATE by 25%, not 25% chance.
Basically if you have 500 crit rate. Tadah! 625 crit rate. That’s 125 more crit rate = 4 Sissel Bracelets.
Dex Archers can easily get 100% crit rate thanks to this attribute while high Str Archers will appreciate it
Wanna mix it in for the missing crit chance.
I will still need 51%/44% crit chance. That is like, 408 crit rate or 272 crit rate with SS atrib and quicken. Without SS II, i would gimp a bit.
And what ranger 3 has to offer? More steady aim, bounce shot which is mediocre, spiral arrow, the fact that i can turn multi shot 10 into an aoe totally makes it better than spiral arrow in the eyes of my face at least.
But i am gonna check some stuff using that spreadsheet posted by someone and get to a conclusion later…
In a POV, yes we can, but that is against most monsters. There are a few cases with monsters that have its crit resist a bit high above average. There are 3 cases i can remember. One of them is monster that isnt in ET, i cannot remember who it was, it has a crit resist of 106. The other two are inside ET, hogma warrior at floor 1 (195) and orange shaman at floor 16(133).
To have 100% crit chance against every single monster, i would need 862 crit rate. As sneak hit with werewolf cards equals to 49% crit chance, i just need to worry about the 51% or 440 crit rate. As inside ET, i am with at least a chrono and diev, i can consider quicken and SS atribute, then i would need 272 crit rate unbuffed. I do this because i want some aoe ratio for multi shot and conc fire, and the least i need to invest into crit rate gear, the better.
Hmm, let me see.
9 Base Dex
56 from level bonus.
96 from 3 level 6 green gems.
8 from collection.
74 from duo sissels.
20 from max pentamion.
18 from virtov leather gloves Virtov Leather Gloves
Oh look, 281 and thats all stuff i can buy from market (aside from the gloves, but hey, nothing is perfect) or farm (the level of the gems). If i wanted to disregard the gloves and the bracelets, i would still need 92 dex, oh god i tire of this, i just really want to try this rogue sr variant out.
Tbh, I’m a Dex supporter so I don’t really care how you guys are building Rogue with Werewolf cards. But the fact that SS can easily ease the burden of expensive equipments is a godsend. I can already see the future where A2, Wiz3, Cleric 2 and Sw3 become the meta everywhere
I just dont like the idea of putting dex instead str in a musketeer, for example and if i’m using SS, i would probably go with dex, the same goes for equipment. Though, this is more a personal thing.