HUahauishuashasudhasu its nice if we have one captcha-anti-bot like this in-game rsrsrsrs 
Beat Dark Souls 
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I would just quit if I had to solve a captcha every hour.
Thx god IMC isnât stupid as every player that agrees with captcha.
It wonât happen, just wonât 
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Please IMC do not add captchas or any other restrictions of any kind. There are enough annoying restrictions that are going to piss people off already. Just add a option to report bots by clicking on them and selecting report bot. Then have GMs active in the servers every few days or so checking the reports and logs.
@KaiserX @LunarRabbit
Thanks for all of your constructive feedback. Iâll try to pass some of the ideas we havenât thought of to the dev team. But please note that there are many many things that must be considered before any new methods can be implemented.
An active community reporting bots/abusers with solid evidence(screenshots / recordings etc) will always be one of the best ways for getting rid of bots since programs can always be worked around given the amount of skilled programmers with too much free time. 
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Have you guys considered actively searching to hire or recruit a volunteer with actual bot programming experience?
They wonât be able to solve your problem, I believe youâre right on relying heavily on active community support in-game to catch / control bots, but the first step to any problem should be knowledge. And having someone whoâs written / writes and can clearly help you cover up holes would be so incredibly helpful.
Like good old ro prison.
I made a day 20 bot finds⌠and the gm jailed me then too ⌠accidentaly.
The room wa sfilled with bots that were runnign aroudn or hitting a wall while running. Or trying to teleport on the spot ⌠ohh god the nightmares.
Anti Teleport.
Anti pvp.
Anti skill.
The perfect prison⌠an donly gmâs could warp you out again xDâŚ
People usually want to bot because of silver and they want to bot because something has really low odds of obtaining it.
Instead of removing features or adding captchas, we need to remove/limit items that are too rare to get yourself. These items are created to âgive us something to doâ or something that will take our time, but not only is this lazy game design, the issue lies in that people would rather resort to other easier methods. Difficulty balance is what really needs to be looked at so we have less RNG items that only bots can be able to farm and less rare items that cost such a high amount of silver in the first place to eliminate the demand for an unfeasible silver amount.
Difficulty in obtaining both silver and items needs to be balanced so that the players feel like they want to do it themselves or find it fun doing so. If it becomes a chore or feels impossible, it creates the need for not only botting but demand for goldsellers as well as cheating programs.
Rare items when finally able to obtain it are nice, but should be restricted to single player games. Instead of having players be unique or empowered by rare items, its better for players to be unique in the choices they make. So instead of rare items, create more variety and more combinations. This way people will be still hunting and looking for that perfect item, but instead of just focusing on a single one, theyâll be trying out various ones, collecting, and rewarded with smaller increments and steps so it feels less impossible and more that they want to do it themselves.
Iâm not entirely sure about this, but I think bots have a lot more to do with profiting real money than actual in game difficulties. i.e. Bot because RMT is profitable.
They do, but rare items means people will sell it at very high prices, very high prices means people will buy from the gold sellers, which means a demand is created for people to bot and sell gold, which means weâll have bots.
Why else would people buy from a gold seller if not to buy that thing that they canât possibly save money for? And what would ever be so expensive besides a rare item?
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Although you are right, a hard game create the perfect environment for BOTs, since theyâll be needed more than easy games due the fact that not everyone can get the rewards but everyone wants it.
Actually the problems is that is easier to find âcustomersâ on hard/grindy games due the nature of greed players, that want the advantages but without effort.
A better way to tackle this is to move your PVP/GVG toward skill base gameplay rather than just a raw power tug-of-war, but thatâs easier said than done, due the fact that MMORPG have heavy latency issues, fps drop, harder classes/gears/stats to balance because of their freedom of gameplay.
Itâs really a tough issue, and not so simple as ppl think it is.
Check it out:
1000 x9 = 9 000âŚ
the best way to wipe out Bot is either give them a map to farm or allow players to take them out PK map.
Wow, arenât you superior, calling people idiots for typos? (I donât think itâs a miscalculation. But even if you think it is, itâs no ground to insult him.)
Nice ideas.
@STAFF_Ethan Did you give up with the bot thing? I donât see there is a real strategy in order to combat bots. Did you give up? Because reading this we can understand you gave up 
Weâve come up with this initial access to prevent numerous Bot Accounts from the early stages of service and to provide a stable in-game environment to our users.
No, captcha wouldnât work:
See: https://d1a2y8pfnfh44t.cloudfront.net/KuPai0ogiHk/full/540p/index.mp4
At the very least, it would have be a very sophisticated captcha that has users matching pictures of with only cats in them or pictures with only street signs, or complex visual tasks like that.
On top of that, there are several other factors to consider why people bot.
- They have jobs
- They have families
- They play other games
- Lazy at grinding.
i donât think thatâs true. ( i mean maye for a small handful of folks) but-
I have a job and social and family life. and play other games. I believe ppl play games for fun. perhaps int eh old RO days ppl botted for trivial matters, but mostly out of frustration because there were so many others doing it. At the present moment, im pretty sure the bots in ToS are primarily linked to one form of IRL profitable venture or another.(gold farmers and the like)
IMC locked trading because of that, i believe. but the problem is, that gold farmers are willing to go to such great lengths to circumvent their measures one way or another⌠the trading/botting/shout spamming⌠all one big problem.
Well thats my theory anyway~