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Another KTOS update - Barbarians get buffed even further!

LOL ragequit and mute because people dont agree with you. Who is the child now. Your analogies suck by the way, Its not like id be mad at my neighbor if he got a raise, it would be like a co worker who doesnt work as hard as me gets a raise. And yea mmos are competitive, the non competitive players are off playing whatever single games that they like. And to answer your question, yes majority of players would to be the best or work towards top of ladder, WHY ELSE DO YOU THINK PEOPLE GRIND. people like you make this community ■■■■

Well seriously what we should get is
Skyline 0 cd with c3 highlander

And cleave slash bonus damage is attribute in Barb c3

With this highlander is good with 0 cd to use everytime (burst,farm,boss etc)

While barb will be great at c3 not 1 rank wonder in cleave skill

Honestly high3 is worse than barb with cd skyliner but alot better without cd
Thats why ktos give this Cleave buff
But to be in barb circle 1 is ridiculous

I’m high3-Cors1 right now, and the dmg scale pretty bad overall… in pvp matches the build is awesome with hook+cross combo bleed and skyline sequentially, but the overheat ***cks everything… in 2 - 3s i can take 8k - 10k hp of a barbarian (lvl 160), but when a reach de cd my hp drop like a waterfall, i dont have anymore skills to release, tried wagon or bash to gain more time (but is useless against pain barrier)… so remove the CD, common seriously, that should not be one-side implemented by the ITOS… its not a cry baby opinion, is just that we (high3) cant compete on par with any other classes, our debuffs is put aside in late game because our DPS is pretty bad, and the debuffs doesnt compensate. (sorry for bad english, brazilian here).

Lol, imagine if they took out the 50% magic boost for wizard c3 attribute. It would ruin all the wizard c3 and elementalist c3 classes (this is my opinion). I’m currently in a similar situation. I chose barb c2 > corsair c2 mainly for the reason that cleave will increase your crit rate. Now that they changed the cleave to help slashing damage I’m probably gonna reroll another class. It scares me how small buffs and nerfs makes certain class combinations not very optimal while buffing other class combinations.

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Good news for me since I’m sword c1 and c2 bard c3-4-5
I hope they add this in soon!

A welcomed update in iTOS if it ever comes. that way each damage type gets their temporal damage boost. as of now only spear user are bless with such a skill : spear lunge. 2H sword are clearly also on the path of DPS, so why shouldn’t they have one ?

Killin them with the rank 3 bard xDDD

What are you talking about.

42 x 50/ 280. Thats 7.5% Crit rate on 0 Crit resist mobs at current level.

0.075x.5 = 0.0375.

Cleave’s crit rate 1.0375% average damage boost at current level cap for you. Technically its less because Cleave can at best be maintained as 10s/21s. Which is less than 50% uptime but hell lets give you a boost and say it is 50% uptime.
That is 1.01875% average damage increase at level cap (excusing Crit attack).

This isn’t considering how many Slash type attacks you may potentially use with the change (at the very least you have Cleave itself benefiting more then 1.01875x damage lol).

We have seberal unmentioned nerfs to multiple classes. Rogues got hit especially hard.

This cleave debuff is only 4 seconds. In 4 seconds time, what could we do to maximize the crit rate and slash damage? 4 seconds guys!

is 5 seconds, in that time you can throw crosscut+3skylinear or almost a full cyclone.

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Unfortunately, you can’t. When you hit cleave, the timer is already 4 seconds then cleave has a delayed animation after the skill, when you use cyclone thereafter, there is also an animation delay at the start of the skill. Effectively, you would be hitting cylcone duration with the cleave debuff for only 2.5 seconds tops. Way to go cleave debuff yay!

Cleave has 3 overheat, so if cleave runs out you can use it again two times for additional two times 4~5 seconds…

Yes cleave has 3 overheat. No problem about that. The concern is Cyclone usage after the cleave debuff will only benefit 2.5 seconds of it.

ok dont pick barb if u only use Cyclone

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you would already be boosting your cyclone’s dps by 50% for half the duration of the skill. gahd so many complains. go play archer or something

The only reason the timer is at 4 seconds right away is because the buff/debuff has less than 5 seconds remaining shortly after being applied. It still lasts the full 5 seconds as you’ll see the buff go from 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 0 and then disappear after lingering at 0 for a second.

Make that cleave buff/debuff last for 12 seconds for the poor swordsman who is trying to be relevant in the dps department.