Yeah like Anvil Upgrade 
Anyway, Iām surprised. I see that you guys found an usecase for briquetting : Briquetting15+Awakening+Slotting+Anviling until 0 potential+Golden Anviling.
And still, you would probably get a better result and cheaper with
Awakening+Slotting+Anviling until 0 potential+Golden Anviling.
Good luck finding a player interested in money-sinking his silver like thatā¦
Especially when you canā¦ I donāt know, like transcend your weapon instead
This is my concern. :C
Why not both 
Transendence is much more expensive anyways.
One thing I would like to point out here.
Pardoners do not earn as much as you think they do.
Each buff pardoner casts requires 10x of the material when selling through spell shop. On top of that, there is a 50% hidden tax for all shop services (squire repair and alchemist gem roasting included)
So letās say on average, most pardoners sell sacrament buff for 800 on average.
After 50% tax, the silver they get is only 400
Cost of material is 35 x 10 = 350
Net profit after selling buff = 400 - 350 = 50 silver only
That is not even 15% of the 350 cost for material.
My pardoner sells around 300-400 buffs daily. Profit after deducting material cost is only about 30k T_T
Yep, people do BOTH.
That means, they gradually anvil/transcend their weapon.
NOBODY is doing so much planning for weapon upgrades since we can basically do it indefinitelyā¦ Thatās old RO/whatever way of thinking.
Thatās still way more than roasting
Look dude, we all understand it is better for an Alchemist to get Tincturing instead of Briquetting simply because you have āfewā points.
The thing is, a single transcend after some point (T5~T6+) will need months to be done, that paying ~1,2m a day on rerolls if you donāt want to take 3 years or more to get to transcend 10.
Briquetting simply costs 1 more weapon, I mean, I can farm a Sup Corona Rod in ~1 hour for example (not even grinding hard) and get myself a different way of transcend in very little time.
Obviously, this is still silver demanding and the chance to get back luck should also be taken into account, I just think briquetting will get more commonly used once Transcendence stage 4+ gets ānormalā.
Anyway, good luck to all alchemists, hope I find some with Briq 15 by the time I get my level 290 weapons.
Yeah. But Iām pretty sure most alchemists earn their profits through tincturing or selling awakening services. Gem roasting shops are just icing to the cake 
Look dude, stop dreaming that Briquetting is like Transcending, it isnāt.
On a Sup Corona, you have 50% chance of getting a medium +6% base atk increase with Briquetting15 (16 atk on Sup Corona). You have 51% of getting +18 atk with Anviling.
I know itās hard to understand maths when youāre clueless, but get that in your head : Briquetting is usually worse than Anviling.
Briquetting is basically an Anviling with more RNG for the roulette addicts like you who donāt understand a thing about probabilities.
And donāt start arguing that you can use Briquetting until you get a good enough atk increase. Itās the same with Anviling.
Hard to understand math when you are clueless? Sorry but Iām on engineering college, what do you do for you to be able to claim you got the clues?
You are talking about anviling, why would I not spend any potential on a single briquet when I have 40+ Golden Anvils?
As stated on posts above, briquetting can net you +12~14% on a weapon.
that, on a 400+ matk weapon (pretty common after R8) is 48~56 matk. or ~3 succesfull anvilings.
Donāt understand a thing about probabilities? Again please, tell me what do you have on you to say you are so good at math.
I can Anvil my weapon forever even at +0 as long as I get Golden Anvils (which I CAN get easily).
So now please, as you are saying I donāt understand probabilities, tell me, what do you really do related to math? How many national mathematics awards have you won? Because Iāve won those and Iām saying with 100% confidence that Briquetting level 15, for people into min max, will be important, be it at level 330 or even at higher levels when we get stupid crazy matk from weapons.
I AM saying, that if you want to get a Weapon to +15 with level 10 transcendence, you are going to spend lots of resoucers and time, a perfect briquetting, even if it costs ~5 million in weapons would still take me few hours to grind.
PS.: If you want money, go for tincturing, everyone spam potions. Iām just saying briquetting will be more wanted the further we progress into the game.
By, the way, why the f*ck are you using 6% if we are talking about R8, you spend ~600mil on a weapon to get it no transcendence 10 considering only cube rerolls.
Please use at LEAST 12% (level 15 briquetting, but some alchemist stated above you can get to +14%)
itās not a 100% 12% or 14 its - 14 to + 14
Itās RNG. either way chill the hell out. He just mentioning that there will be a chance that you will land some where in the middle or 3-6% because of this long stretch it will become scrap tier weapon O_oā¦
Either way you the odds you are gambling is at 7 : 3 to get something worth more out of 2 enchanment
Blablablabla, I donāt play epenis.
Lucky you, Iām (was) into maths too
The burden of the proof falls to you.
Donāt talk about transcendence if you talk about briquetting worth. Why ?
Because it works like that Final ATK= (a + b + c) * d
a is base atk
b=f(a) is briquet bonus
c is anvil upgrade
d is transcendence scaling
What you want to maximize is b+c.
Here what Iām asking you to prove.
Letās say you have 1 extra potential. You want to use it for the best.
Prove me that you have better odds to get something good out of this potential with briquetting rather than anviling.
Should you rather increase b or c ?
12% is the max you can get.
With B15, you have 100% of getting between -12~+12, 50% 0~+12, 25% 6~+12, ā¦, 3.125% 11.25~12.
3.125% of being between 11.25 and 12.
Thatās why I donāt use ā12ā you dumbass. Because I compare things that are comparable aka 51% of getting +18 with anvil and 50% of getting 0~+12 with briquetting. (0+12)/2=6 WOW.
Briquetting is p(n)=1*(1/2)^n chance of getting an increase between u(n)=12-24*(1/2)^n and 12. (generalization of u(n+1)=(u(n)+12)/2)
@moises_andre12 I still wait for your proof that Briquetting odds are better than Anviling.
Show me what they teach you in engineering college
With DM 12,5%, Gem 13%.
Your weapon has base ~500 matk (staff) or ~400 (rod).
You can still do much more enhancements with Golden Anvil.
Yes, in the case where you have only 1 last potential you should NOT briquet your weapon.
The point of briquetting is not this. Briquetting should be done BEFORE you start upgrading your weapon (or spending any silver on it at all), if you get a nice briquet, (10%+), open sockets, awaken it and enhance it as much as youād like after that, using Golden Anvils if possible.
The thing is it looks like you donāt understand what you are talking about, you are considering making a Transcendence 10 weapon, do you understand how much time it takes? If you spend DAILY 1,2m on 2 rerolls for each of the 2 cubes you need around 1 year and a half to get to transcend 10.
+10% on base weapon matk is 40~50+ matk you assure on your weapons, if you get to T10 (550%, 1 and a half year), they turn into 220~275 matk. +1 Anvil enhancement gives 18~20 matk which turns into 99~110 matk.
Letās say you use that final 1 potential youād get and get 2 success and a fail (be the fail before or after the first success), youād be off with +18 matk, +20 on a 290 weapon. You would actualy need to have 3 successes in a row with your final potential for it to be worth more than those +10~13%. Each try costs ~2mill after from +12 on. The thing here is, if you are commited to upgrading a weapon to high levels of Transcendence, to a point where you will farm enough of it to make a 10%+ briquett (which you should since that already takes lots of time by itself), upgrading only finely briquetted weapons will end up giving you better results than no briquetted ones.
Obviously, this is all min maxing, people into this arenāt even spending Blessing Shards because everyone have already seen how powerful level 290 gear is. 1 and a half year is no joke, you are not losing much by wasting 15~30 days going for some finely briquetted weapons. Level 330+ weapons are probably something that we canāt even imagine. Just think about how the best INT staff is giving 22 INT and many rods/maces/staffs can give 100+ INT on R8. Also a very big matk gap.
The further the game progresses and the better the new weapons are, the more Briquetting will become important.
OP: If you are making an Alchemist, go Tincturing 15, you will make more money and make yourself cheap potions.
If you have hardcore friends saving their shards for Rank 8, you might want to consider what briquetting can do but it takes a LOT of effort from the farmer and most likely wonāt give you much profit.
Okay, youāre right, Iām wrong.
Godspeed to you.
(nice proof btw)
According to your claim biquetting only applies to initial +0 weapon damage.
Is this true?
If biquetting applies to current weap damage factored on top of transendence then your claims are invalid.
Transcendence applies after everything, Briquetting is only on weaponās base damage from his post. I do not have an alchemist so I canāt confirm this.
No problem, I actualy think people will only start to make real use of it after R8 or R9.
Sorry if was rude or anything, itās just that you started to call me things you had no reason to before a discussion in the least.
Yeah Briquetting will only apply to the base weapon damage.
We can have a higher level alchemist to test this out in a cheap weapon. But Iāve made some research and thus far thatās what everyone says.
I donāt have briquetting and I wonāt spend my points until Rank 8 because I want insta-Lv15 Pots and Magnum Opus lv6.
Without really entering the discussion I find briquetting perfectly fine aside from one big issue. I never found any way to do it without the item getting through my inventory.
You can offer awakening services through the party menu, you can set up a roasting shop, you can use magnum opus/tincturing and sell through the market but I couldnt find any way to briquette something without owning the item which means the skill is no more a viable service because you need a lot of trust to give an item to someone and on top of the potential cost of the skill you have to potential cost of the trade/necessity of having a token, furthermore an enhanced item through briquetting has no visibility. Enhancements have a +X indicated, slots are shown, awakening bonus are shown but even if you somehow managed to get a +13% briquetting it will never catch anyoneās eye on the market and the direct trades being what they are people frown on already crafted item because of the potential loss (on top of the potential loss from briquetting).
Maybe I am mistaken, I found the awakening for others option by chance but nothing of the sort seem to exist for briquetting