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AFKing with MACRO VS IMC Bot ban A.I

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#15

this is my point tho; both interpretations of the announcement have some valid points to it. i’m just trying to illuminate both sides.

and again… that announcement was fairly recent. people have been saying all the way back to iCBT that z-afking was permitted. but ofc nobody has a source on where it came from.

for a true z-afker, i think it’s pointless. the activity itself is nearly worthless, and the gains too limited to bother. (imagine waking up to see Vubbe Blood laying next to your corpse or something… lol.) and with the activity itself being so close to worthless, wasting resources trying to prevent it seems equally valueless.

ideally, nobody would do either, but better this at least, than true botting.

#16

holding down the z key is so incredibly ineffective I don’t see the problem with it. I have tested it during a previous beta because I wanted to see some higher level content before the servers closed and I had to work too much to do it “legit”

So over 3 days I tried repeatedly to level by having my z key held down while I was at work. The first time I died, figured ok, must have been too high of a zone. Made no gain. Second day I gained a whopping 2 levels. almost 10 hours of sitting there and I gained 2 levels. and this was at lowish levels.

3rd day? I died again. Probably killed by a player somehow as I don’t think the zone could have killed me.

So over 3 days of trying to afk while holding down the z button and I gained 2 levels. Try it in a higher level zone where you lose vast amounts of money upon death and gain levels even slower? its a complete non issue.

#17

What do you think if people party up and 5 archer just sitting and holding Z together, all days, all nights?

#18

I disagree. It does matter alot where they set up like you said, but there are places like royal masoleum chapel where they set up right at the entrance. Mobs only spawn in front of them and often. Mobs also run right to them. They get big benefit from afking there for 10 hours. You dont even need the items. Silver and xp add up in 10 hours.,

I just leveled up another character and hit that zone, but the afkers are gone. There used to be at least 5 afkers there at all times. Maybe they moved on and found a better spot.

You cant do this anymore, but remember the afkers farming those big kepas at miners village? decent benefit there too for newer players.

They cant do this everywhere and have alot of benefit, but there are places where they get a decent advantage and not even play the game, which is what botting is. Something from nothing.

#19

if there is no one sitting at a place that used to be profitable to do it… then the profit for that location has been lost.
either they grew up and moved on, or something happens when they try it. maybe there are mobs that rarely spawn just outside?
at miners’ village all i remember were true botters, teleporting everywhere, and attacking stuff entire screens away. thankfully those are cleared out.

there will be 5 lines where mobs will die quickly. 1 archer or 5, it wouldn’t really make a difference.
eventually that’s going to become unprofitable for them. the higher level you are above the mobs you are fighting, the less exp you earn from it, until eventually you get nothing at all.

and remember, they’re just firing basic shots in a straight line. no targeting, no skills. archers, with their very narrow attack line, would probably be the worst possible choice. something could sneak up between 2 lines of fire and kill them

and players can just go around whatever area they’re in.

#20

You forgot about the kneel shot?
5 archers, 5 directions, and i don’t say they will 1 location.
Please don’t be narrowminded about this.
Botting is botting, it’s not about the profit they got.
Why are you playing a game if you can’t play the by yourself?

#21

z-afk will also eventually result in all gear durability going to zero, so doing it anyplace that you can’t solo nekkid will probably result in eventual death, limiting the benefit still further

#22

I am the user of this char, I don’t use HP pots because I have 26 of HP, and only use a Lv10 SP potion every 5min (300s is the max duration), and I not use any skill, when I summon my pet is manual only if required. I work in my another screen so I can manage my farming time, and this is the reason why I don’t use Bonfire. I only make my Sp potion automatics like Dispellers, I dont understand why is this baneable for you. Finaly this image:

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Next time try to report real bots and no real players, I need 5KK for a catacomb club so probably you see my again in Demon 2.

#23

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That picture is from my topic, and here is the reply from Staff.

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#24

I use “macro recorder to record my activities”. Maybe you should have been a little specific with that. This just sounds like taking a video of gameplay footage.

I remember this same thing being posted like twice and the same thing was said and that the staff probably didnt know what you were talking about.

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#25

Ya right, he asked about recored his activities, so it’s kinda confuse.
I’m already pointed that out in my topic.

#26

if you aren’t using any skills, why do you need to use SP potions ?

anyway, sounds like tossupport misunderstood what “Macro recorder” was due to a poor wording choice used. (whoever wrote that ticket in the image)
“to record my activities” makes it sound like you are making a video, which would be fine. (there’s even a video recorder built in)
using it to record and replay your key and mouse activity would be a form of botting.

#27

i think he use mp potions coz the summon consume % of mp

#28

oh right, yea of course.

“summon my pet” i immediately thought of the hoglan standing there.

#29

Solution posted by @varuna thnx for all comments and opinions, but i stil waiting for IMC response about this case, i will try a ticket…

#30

So, I can’t farm with a Sorc cause need use pots, but a Necro can afk-farm with any problem???

#31

We’re not arguing that using macros is illegal (it isn’t), we’re arguing if using macros to AFK is illegal…(it is, but you wont be dealt with the same as a walking-bot would)

Stay on subject plx.

#32

Got this…

"
Greetings Savior,

Thank you for contacting Us.

For a player to get ban, it requires a certain number of other user bot reports made against the account and the accounts activity that alert our bot pattern recognition program. Our program will have a hard time detecting such Macro/s, so that is the reason how player reports can help us ban such users.

If you have any other concern, please do contact us.

Regards,

Tree of Savior Support"

#33

Customer support > Forum admins.

The setup above is the usual for most companies. It may or may not be the case for IMC.

#34

Lol, I was grinding there and actually saw the guy

We walked into the room to find the guy out of SP potions and no summon getting rekt, and we just watched xD