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Advice for a starter

Well, i’m new to this game since yesterday. Today i deduced my character was going to the wrong side (in terms of stats and classes), so my question is:

• What’s the best class in r8 for everything related to PvE? (single target, multitarget, grinding, faming, bosses and you know… “pve”)
• What’s the best class in r8 if i want to play with a bow (love 'em)

I’ve searched for some builds but i always find builds for r7, not r8.

Can’t tell you which class is better overall specially in the archer tree. someone with far better knowledge or vision might be able to help you.

As for a bow specialist? that would be mergen, however. I think you’d perhaps enjoy a falconer 3, it requires no weapon stance so you’re free to use crossbow + something or a bow.

Falconer is not the greatest in any field. But the utility it brings will probably shine brightly when rank 9 hits us. Heck it even shines brightly if your party is not filled with magic users, even then you help those pesky casters enlargning hitboxes at C3.

Yeah i’ve seen Mergen and Falconer in some builds but i don’t know how to properly get to them. I mean, for example, falconer is a r6 class. But how do i get to it? Archer » Ranger » Archer » IDK, or Archer » Archer » Archer » IDK, etc. I think you get what i mean.

I know that Mergen is a fully “non-cd-aoe” build.
I don’t know what a Falconer does (for what you said i guess it’s a buffing/dpsing class)

For what i played, i was really enjoying an Archer » Ranger with Barrage for trashcleaning, Multishot for “bosses” and Oblique Shot for pulls when i have Barrage on cd, but i don’t know what the other classes can do.

I just want something than can do things alone without much of a pain (so, lots of fast aoes) but with wich i don’t need 2 days to kill a boss (so, burst/single target dmg) too

Falcon’s job is to whistle and circle so I’d hazard a guess that anything that can keep you alive is favorable (scout?). Then there’s the fan favorite Schwarz Reiter that (I think) can work with your circling to bust some AoE hole. Plus having both falcon and mounts out looks badass, just be careful about mounting if you need to hide (cmiiw, never scouted before).

Well falconer is an enemy debuffer. you subtract AoE def from them and enlarge the enemy’s hitbox. Falconer has a red icon, supposedly that means that it is a damage dealing class. Ignore said icon, falconer has no damage dealer DNA. It is a more support oriented class.

Schwarzer reiter and falconer both are from rank 6. So I’d take one or the other, not both. mainly because I don’t think there’s any skill from schwarzer that benefits from having enemies with less AoE def.

I’m an Archer 2 Hunter 3 Falconer 3. This path is lacking throughout in damage so I do not advice mostly because one must learn to work around the hunter’s pet.

I’d take Archer 2 Sapper 3 Falconer 3 just to try it out but I think it is also lacking in the damage department. Archer 2 Ranger 3 Falconer 3 seems to be decent but I do not know about rangers pitfals so I’d ask for someone else’s opinion on this one.

Scout for a falconer? if you go falconer 3 then you unlock a mini frost cloud ( a very good ground AoE, doesn’t hit flying type) but I do not think that scout 2 is worth it, that would mean you’re committing to scout 3 at rank 9 and that’s not ideal.

So to take a falconer route you need A2 as a base. 3 ranks of something and then 3 ranks of falconer. I don’t recall the classes capable of dealing AoE damage in the archer tree. but you need something that is dependant on AoE formula or limitless AoE to benefit from a Falconer 3.

You’re always welcome to try something else too.

Thats… too greed to be true, you know?
Composition is falconer3/beastmaster expert
Dimeowgio is fletcher3 with almighty defense expert
unicorntheshiny is musketeer2 expert
lunettesrogue is STR rogue-glassmole expert
I am still using STR iDreamy scout3 and i love every second of playing it
greyhiem is …i dont know what his build is but he is very very knowledgable about any archer class

Didn’t ask for a perfect class, @myself, just asked for the best class at it aka. the class that, having in mind it’s pros and cons, can deals with that pretty well.

For what @Composition said, Falconer isn’t the kind of class i like to play.

I’ve “investigated” a bit in yt. Searched for videos of people soloing dungs with Mergens and RS and i kinda liked them both.

But for what i’ve being seeing, the “ranger” class isn’t worth taking, right?

I’ve seen many builds using Scout 3, so i guess i should be taking Archer » Archer 2 » “something” » Scout » Scout 2 » Scout 3 » “something” » “something”.

But what should i pick as a 3rd class? And what stats should i take? I thought a balance of STR/DEX could be ok but i’ve seen many Full DEX builds and many Full STR builds, so i don’t know what to take.

Awww I wanted more birds to populate the sky :cry:

As for the stats bit. Right now STR or INT are not really relevant. they literally add 1 point of extra attack, at 800 you get 800 extra atk shocker Thing is. transcendance is here and that means you can get weapons with 1700 patk and matk (it doesn’t end there) making str and int contributions less important.

You’ll find more magues going full int than physical classes going full str mostly because we don’t deal with defense walls like magic users. So the physical meta is : full dex for crits.

The remnants of full str in physical classes can be found in rougue builds or old wugushi and quarrel shooter builds. One day they’ll be reborn from the ashes hopefully

Important thing : STR gives Critical Attack. It gives Block Penetration too, but I don’t think it’s really important in PvE.

Ok, then i’ll go full DEX. I like it :smiley:

The problem will be the classes now…
The build that @myself commented is a melee build, so, i wont be even trying it (i don’t like melees, sorry xd)

The SR build uses Arch2, Rang3 and SR3
The Mergen build use Arch2, Rang1, Fletche3, Scout1, Mergen1

Maybe i’ll go Arch1 - Rang1 - Arch2 for now, until i have to think what way to go.

I have read that Mergen deals really low damage due to it’s long CDs and that SR is just “the way to go”.

Schwarzer is not really the end class for archers. it’s just the greatest AoE DPS archer has, that is undeniable.

But there is still room for other classes and playstyles that will not approach that level at all. but are bearable enough to justify playing them. In the end it will come down to your playstyle and the uncertainty that is rank 9 and possible later ranks. Following something because it will have the best numbers doesn’t sound like it is a good idea, unless, you end up enjoying playing such a thing. So really choose what best fits yours needs and wants.

@soldatazur Oh yeah I completly forgot that str does that aswell, as you yourself said it doesn’t really matter.

melee build? nonononono. Only feint+barrage in my build need to be executed in melee range to maximize the dmg, the rest of the skill are ranged.
my build cons is: not flexible to choose any card and the lack of evasion

Nah, i don’t play “the most damage dealing” class, but i don’t like to be “excluded” because of that, so i tend to play those clases for that reason.

And for @myself, if it’s not melee then i may try it. I saw the iDream video about the build and i saw he was sticking to the boss all fight long, so i thought it was a melee build.

that is because you see him at bossing, which need to use feint+barrage combo. He always circling around the boss because Rogue’s sneakhit will give +70% crit chance to your attack if you attacking from the back of the enemy.
lunetterogue’s feint+barrage can hit 1 million dmg.

I’m saying Block Penetration doesn’t matter for PvE, where did you see I said Critical Attack from STR doesn’t matter for PvE ??? :hand_splayed:

I’m willing to argue that it doesn’t matter when you consider transcendance and gems exist. but hey, don’t let this random guy change yours views, as we know from the interview things are bound to change. not soon, oh how I hope it was soon.

i think you’ll enjoy playing fletcher if you’re not really interested in pvp…and maybe a wugushi too

fletchers=dex
wugushis=str

but if u want an enjoyable build that could be use later in pvp

i recommend a archer2 Ranger3 scout1 Musketeer2

Nah, i wont play pvp. I never play PvP in MMORPGs because they tend not to balance it (the only mmorpg i pvped was Black Desert and it was only because the game is based on a pvp environment). I like pvp in FPS and RTS, but not in an MMORPG.

Fletcher is what i think i’ll take (fletcher » mergen). I guess a fletcher focused build will have another setup, but i’ll go Mergen so i can play Fletcher3 skills and so.

Heres some solid advice. Stop playing this game. In about 2 or 3 months you will realize why this game has such a low population for a game thats only a year old.

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Flet3-hacka, not mergen. Flet has the luxury of having all skills be usable mounted. But then you requested a bow specifically so … idk.

Just something to think about in case you decide to try xbow.