Hello Saviors,
It has been about 75 days after we announced first policy update regarding RMT.
Today, I would like to add one more policy about this one.
But before that, I also like to hear How do you think about it.
I would like to add a new policy that we could seize the equipment, any items purchased by RMT accounts and traded to the RMT buyer.
Imo, the policy is good and will scare players to do RMT but is this going to be implemented at first offense/warning? or after it?
We already applied the policy on the market that we will going to seize unlawful gains immediately.
But also, this new policy have strict condition, IF the trader is confirmed to be RMT bot Account.
(there are many values I use to judge if this account is Bot or not, and until now it served my op well.)
The unlawful Item will be seized with no Warning, but the warning will be issued to the RMT buyer, and will be applied same punishments from the last Market RMT policy
The RMT Bot account will not going to receive warnings whatsoever, they will be destroyed on sight.
Perfect, take the stuff until all is clear is the best way of making sure they donāt do it againā¦
if you give a warning but later do nothing or if do something abruptly like banā¦
Exploiter will ether stick to it and ignore the policy or complain about it like we have seen alreadyā¦
Never lower your guard and expect everything to go wrong 
btw still a lot of RMT in Tel server. If you can see on the market.
and How can you deal with 1:1 trade RMT???
Every trade, market any kind of transactions made, we know about it.
Nothing is untraceable especially with item.
About the Market RMT item hmmā¦ well we could discuss it here anyway.
There is a way we could tweak the status of such -multiple reported- item.
But I do have to tell you its quite a aggressive action.
This is more like, okay this is weird item, we are going to get rid of it right away, even there is no action, but there is only suspicion lies on there.
If that is already traded btw, I have a free pass to bust out the RMT Buyer, I know someone bought that,
Who is that, and IF that account is RMT Bot or not.
So, What i can say for now, your system got a lot of hole. even you have all the transaction base. How can you just it? for exsample ;
1 item with very high price (1M silver or up)
and 10, 100, or 1000 items with 100k (silver)
right now, people lower the price to 100 , 200, or 500k silver and increase the number of the item. How can you deal with it?
another example; if i want to sell my silver, and let the buyer put the item up on the market. then i wait til item show up, and buy it in 2 - 5 sec. this way no one can report this transaction. How can you deal with it?
I know a lot of ppl doing this way.
and when you ban ppl, But they ticket you and say that " Ohh iām so sorry for this transaction but i have to pay my friend back for ba ba ba ?? something like this, How can you trust what they say in the ticket? ???
Registered on market simply doesnāt mean that posses a meaning of RMT trading, we could be suspicious about it but we simply canāt push that away.
What if you missed and you just go to nap and found yourself accused with it?
This has to be a general Law, a policy and we are talking about actual punishment to take away oneās property
It doesnāt simply work that way. You simply canāt accuse everyone with suspicion.
You always need proof.
That is why I observe more time on an actual traded item.
Very simple very clear, no way to make excuse about that.
I have exact values how to measure bot behavior, but I wonāt address here,
I donāt want to compromise my work.
donāt worry i just want to share, and i didnāt mean anythingā¦ btw thank you for your hard work.
Well it is quite a good point too, Its kind of for me a very fortunate, I havenāt met who have guts to claim thatā¦ TOO Obvious bot as friend. But I am ready for such claims.
Hi. I have been playing for a while. I just want to say that many are tempted to do RMT. For me, prices can be very overly expensive. I know that theyāre hard to gain/collect but to the point where only rich players can afford. Iāve tried selling tokens with my old (now discarded) account. Only to find out that itāll only provide me about 10-12m each. I bought 5 tokens before and I only got roughly 50-60m. With that amount, I wasnāt able to buy much things. That 5 tokens cost me P2,000 (around $37 US). Iāve checked the website the bot is shouting about, it says there that it cost P267 for 10m silver. With my P2,000, I can add few more hundreds and Iāll have 100m silver. While with tokens, I only get 50-60m. Who comes with with item prices anyway? Iām no RMT player but honestly saying I am tempted to but too afraid to get banned.
It could be a boring answer - too 101 thing - but, it relies on the market, In a normal situation, always the new item starts at quite ridiculous prices sometimes. 40 ~ 50 million, sometimes a billion. But, the trade is made when the people decide that price is well enough for them to pay for. And when the supply of certain item keeps on, at some place the prices became stabilized. So basically weāre using the free-market logic - of course, we keep on eyes on the 3rd methods who trying to affect this prices, RMT for this case. - It happens to all the newly came item. or the Past old ones.
If the price is too high, well itās obvious that the trade wonāt be made at all. However, in RMT situation I check more than just one factor, in this case, āweird priceā could be one of the things we could consider. Thatās why I donāt punish people with weird prices, well there is some obvious weird ones - something like 1 million price Dilgeles and I wait for someone to buy that, raising my hammer up and high - So yeah, it is okay to register some item on certain prices, but I donāt think you always have to fear of the ban since, If you are trying to trade with legit player, the player himself will decide if the price is correct or not, if not well then he wonāt buy it at all.
One of the things I expect with destroying RMT is, to stabilizing the silver prices.
Iām not sure at this point that it will be effect to our prices, but I have to try something you know.
Token maximum price is 20m. Why do you think no one puts at 20m? Yes, the sole reason is because there are people willing to undercut others and price them lower. These players are satisfied with such profits.
@STAFF_Yuri
I would also suggest this strict RMT policy to be more visible to everyone, rather than only people who visit the site / forums on an often basis. All new players and returning players (never login for several months?) should somehow get a 1-time popup / message notification in game regarding RMT policy, and direct them to the website link with more details. If not, just make it part of the āNEWSā button in game, where it will be visible to everyone, and always serve a reminder.
I will find out if I could something about it.
Is funny cause I have put dumb items on high price at least twice now and at first I told myself it was for the heck of itā¦
but its just what you say I just wanted to see who buys it who is dumb enough to fall for it so I can point my fist to itā¦
One get so angry and sick of the same shit over and overā¦
Botters take advantage of the fields
Spammers take advantage of the towns
RMTrs take advantage of the markets (@OoOoOoOoOoO I wouldnāt even take it out of consideration that the same people that try to sell you for ācheapā is also inflating the market to make their stuff more appealing )
it gets harsh for the common derp and thatās where temptation starts to crawl and dig it fangsā¦
There is an actual price pattern of the RMT tradable items, which they want to trade.
Also, I am planning to adopt some kind of trust system but its not yet fully planned.
In Telsiai, I usually see Tokenās price at 10-12m. Never saw it went up to 15-20m. What server are you playing at?
Perfect, the unlawful gain in illegal trading should be removed on the first try.
Like @Zenigame said, the in game News function could be reworked to allow this.
Using it to display announcements like the RMT one would work. If it instead opened a secondary in game window after pressing the desired News and from there the player could navigate to the website then that would allow you to do more.
Certain Announcements (like RMT Policy changes) of sufficient priority, could automatically open the first time a player logs into their team, and from there if they want to, they could navigate to the website to find more information. This would be useful in general for informing the player population of news anyway.
Preferably announcements could be added without the need of a client update which Iām not sure is the case now.
Maybe we could also get a TOS launcher with a built in Announcement function, file verification and repair tools along with official addon loading support but I feel thatās asking a bit too much right now.