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About Featherfoot and Plague Doctor nonsense

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

So, i’m very disappointed about some choices that IMC does. Today I wanna discuss with you guys about the nonsense choice of giving Featherfoot for Wizards and Plague Doctor for Clerics.

Everyone knows that Wizards are a cientific class. He can manipulate nature elements, the time, the space and the proportion of things. He’s clearly a student class.

Everyone also knows that Clerics are a religious class. He has a Priest Class representing the Christianism, the Sadhu with the Astral Projection, the Bokor with the Voodoo and more. He’s clearly not a student class.

Now, think about the concept of Featherfoot and Plague Doctor. Featherfoot is a sorcerer in Australian aboriginal spirituality. He plays with blood and sacrificies. Plague Doctor is based on the Black Death. He plays with poisons and antidotes. Clarity a class that needs to study biology to understand this such things.

Why the hell Plague Doctor was giving to the Clerics? Featherfoot on Wizards it’s okay, but he already has Sorcerer to be that kind of class. Is it too late to change this classes between Cleric and Wizard? I think it’s not.

#2

um what? we know that from our extensive knowledge of real world magic scientists?

Heals, biology, use of plants (drawing a blank on what its called), and medical science makes sense as well for clerics.

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#3

No, it doesn’t. Cleric heals with the supernatural power, the inexplicable power. With your logical, Ciensce X Religion doesn’t exist on our world.

#4

Wizards are not a scientific class, you are thinking Alchemists.

Wizards are a magic class, typically focusing on offensive magic.

Clerics are a supportive healing class, blessing allies, but also cursing enemies. Voodoo classes, which apply curses, should therefore be in the Cleric branch. Plague Doctor is closer associated to Bokor IMO than Alchemist - hence, why I think placing him in the Cleric branch makes sense.

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#5

I see where you are coming from but MMOs are more concerned with how classes work within the mechanics of the game than where those classes originally derive their inspiration from. Idk much about (irl) featherfoots (featherfeet?) but you have said that they are aboriginal sorcerers, and plague doctors are, well, doctors. I agree with you in the sense that featherfoot has spiritual/religious roots, and plague doctor is more scholarly. However as I said, games are more concerned with mechanics and when it comes down to that, featherfoot attacks using magic and plague doctor heals/prevents status ailments. Though I certainly believe both of these classes could be modified up to the point where PD fits better in the wizard line and FF in the cleric line.

#6

okay i tried the nice way, it didn’t work ill try straight forward and honest.

Your entire theory of mage as a science class is from alchemist ALONE nothing else pull your head out of your ass.

#7

I don’t think wizards are connected with science that much…

BUT I rly thought that Plague Doctor will be on the Wizard tree too. Because I thought it will be a potion-healer class. Clerics heals with magic and because the alchemist was already on the wizard tree… I rly assumed it will be on the Wizards tree.

But it turned out it doesn’t even uses potions…or nothing like that yet so…skill-wise they made it to fit in the cleric tree… BUT I still think it should have been on the wizard tree too… X) (or in other words imo it should have been where the alchemist is because it could have been the closest to that with the right skills )

Also I want to say that the basic scheme seemed to be that on the cleric tree the classes were somehow connected to religions… and I don’t think Plague Doctor is connected to religion… and now we know we will have shepherd and fortune teller too on the cleric tree and those are a bit questionable too… but whatever. Maybe they won’t fit in from the religious view point that much but they will definitely fit in skill-wise and as supports.

But I still want to say with a bit different skills plague doctor could have been an awesome wizard class too.

I’m not sure btw about Featherfoot…I don’t know much about it…
Oh… and also we will have Taoist Priest on the Wizard tree just sayin… :smiley:

#8

This is silly. If you want to be particular, both Clerics and Wizards are classes based around studying. That’s usually what the intellect trait is perceived by.

Mages study rigorously to bring their magic abilities to new levels.
Alchemist study to create their magnum opus.
Clerics study divinity for enlightenment.

None of these things in most “vidyagamz” have anything to do with medical advancement through natural means. However, the typical “Medic” class is given to priests(if you want to understand why- they tend to try to “nurture their flock”), which falls under Clerics. Therefore, Plague Doctor goes to low and behold, the cleric subclass sector.

Also, in history. The church was the one able to actually start simple medical advancement, as anyone who practiced medicine not under the church was considered an abomination and a devil worshiper :smiley: That usually led to a very very swift beheading. At least until the Renaissance, anything before hand usually took place by religious philosophers and in monasteries usually secluded and away from town to not draw too much unwanted attention.

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#9

Definition of Featherfoot.


So i think it is on the right class tree.

Definition of Plague Doctors


Same for this one.

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#10

Dude you forgot to drop the mic on @lumoloud with that hard cold fact LMAO.People are becoming more and more silly with random threads that are imo stupid lol. @lumoloud could of at least google it and find some type of info about Featherfoot and PD.

#11

I can see that it is a bit tricky in some sort of concept, but either classes, if we talk about background, both classes are students, they need to learn how to do their stuff somehow, now naming one a scientific class and the other some sort of paranormal is going a bit far, the setting is a fantasy game, not a sci-fi setting and as the wikipedia describe, one is considered a sorcerer/spiritualist, the other is a doctor.

And i don’t see where the thread is silly, we are talking about the background of the classes or characters/npc, the end concept of this game is to be heavy RP oriented, so i wouldn’t doubt if later on other classes, like Templar, are required for specific actions in game.

#12

yea but wiki is a load of garbage as people can put info on it and it frequently has incorrect information.

#13

Tell me what do you want IMC to do with Featherfoot and Plague Doctor exactly?

#14

Yeah well, tell me where on the internet you can trust in this kind of information then? I doubt there is any place, including wikipedia, that could provide that, maybe some university? If you know any post here for us, actually i am curious about the classes background.

#15

Im not saying what you posted about PD and feather foot is wrong im just saying wiki is a iffy source at best and should be cross referenced, really any info off the internet should be even if its with other sources on the net. In fact i agree with the PD and feather foot, im just gripping about wiki because i hate it.

#16

Ah ok, well still it is hard to grasp some reliable info from open source areas as they can be edited anytime by anyone.

#17

Medics, Doctors… are not necessary belong to Clerics just because they are healers… they more like belong to the HEALER tree :smiley:
In some games while Priests heal with holy magic Doctors/Alchemists heal with Potions/Medicines. So that wiki doesn’t rly explain anythjng about why Plague Doctor is on the Cleric tree…

On the other hand I still like what @RISKorRIOT said that in some ages Clerics did the medical study… It makes a little connection… but also it still can be separated imo.

But the devs wanted it like this so… I’m okay with it. I’m sure when we will see the Taoist Priest skills we will see why it’s on the Wizard tree too… :smiley:

Oh and I don’t find the featherfoot that questionable either.

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#19

On Taoist case, i would guess it is because they deal with elements, there is a game called Conquer Online that there is 2 types of Taoists, well, as wikipedia, i am not sure how accurate the backgroud of these classes are, but the water taoist is a healer that use the power of water (can be more obvious? lol) while the fire taoist is an offensive class.

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#20

I see that sounds good. Also I’m just checking wikis and yeah I guess they will be good as wizards. maybe it won’t happen in ToS but they also have some connection with alchemy. I can’t say that they couldn’t be on the cleric tree but it will be definitely good like this.