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A3>R1>Fletcher3 or A1>R3>Fletcher3?

You do realize going from barrage 10 to barrage 15 increases the skill damage by only 150.

So that means if you’re doing 3k damage with barrage 15, you’d do 2.85k damage with barrage 10.

It’s really small. Meanwhile for that 150 extra damage, you gave up a 25% crit rate buff, a buff that applies to fletcher skills as well.

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i wish i read that before i choose R3

You do realize that you are misssing spiral arrow and some steady aim damage, and bounce shot (saving arrows sometimes), etc?
Its not only barrage x 25% crt ratebuff, there is other trades that you do choosing archer c2.

And the missing damage on barrage is way more than your math, there is 3x overheats, 5 hits.

One question to you: whats your ping? with high ping barrage is way worst than with low ping. Just saying.

LoL 3k dmg per arrow when v150-155? :joy: even when you are full STR, there is no way you can reach that dmg. Try to tell something real dude. =))

Sipral’s arrow cd is too long to be relevant in dps.

Bounce shot is not good

Barrage 15 with 3 overheat? Congrats you just did 2.25k extra damage over 17 seconds, amazing. Simply amazing.

Clearly you didn’t get the memo that Ranger 3 was only the best build in Korea because Steady aim was about 10x stronger, with the Steady Aim nerf there’s no real reason to go beyond Ranger 2 if it means giving up swift step crit rate buff.

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There. LvL 127 old picture with +0 120 weapon and crap items. @muitenphale1995 happy now? :joy: that mob is MEDIUM (dmg penality for archers), PLATE ARMOR (AGAIN, penality), HIGH DEF HIGH CRITICAL RESIST for that level. I was able to do around 7k dmg on ideal conditions on a barrage hit. Just a tip: small flying mobs leather armor type.

@sudonim7 Im aware of the nerf. spiral arrow hits like a truck. every single sipral arrow can get bonus damage from bless, or any otther bonus for every hit, even with high cd its ok.

BTW, Steady aim nerf 45% to 20 %, 15 s to 10s. TEN TIMES stronger? Its is still usefull man. The CD is not that big.

Ymmv, choose archer c2 if you want, but both archer c2 and ranger c3 are ok on fletcher builds. How much critical rate pure value your Swf step is giving to you?

R3>A3 if you are going for F3, Swift step attribute is a joke,spiral arrow is strong af… and steady aim is really nice even with our nerf.

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oh yeah, I am so happy now. my barrage is so buggy with just 3k dmg that I hardly use it because barbed cause 10k with no CD :joy:
ok fine. good luck barrage with 100k HP mobs

P/S: I messed up my fletcher skills, not Ranger. I’m happy with it :joy:

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Good, have fun. Hope you fix your skill build soon. :joy:

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Ok! Final decision! i thought my topic was gonna be simple, but i think thats a lot to know about the classes, so… i made two builds which one do you prefer?

STR 2:1 DEX in both builds 60 CON and a little bit SPR 30 max

A2>R2>F3

A3>R1>F3

Thanks for the help!

Ok I don’t have fletcher but based on what you said about barbed arrow it seems to be the same for twin. Thanks

Pls… dont put any point into spr.

build one seems fine but:

High Anchoring is useless

Kneeling Shot is bad for fletcher

Critical Shot lvl 4 will eat your sp and maybe will be useless too. Thats the problem with ranger c2, you have 5 useless skill points…

Broadhead at least lvl 1

good luck!

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Up, more help needed

Thx!

no?? any help??

thx!

A1>R3>Fletcher3 :slight_smile:

And yes, max Barrage. It’s too awesome a skill not to max.

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A1>R3>F3 is the real deal.

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@sudonim7 Which do you think would be optimal for mostly soloing and sometimes partying with my friends (but not a WB min-max party setup i.e. w/ Chrono, melstis and stuff, etc.) for WBing?

A2 > R1 > Scout1 > Fletcher3

OR

A3 > Scout1 > Fletcher3 (which appears to be what you’re using as well)

Having played an A3, the burst that lv.15 Multishot provides seems underrated (yes, even with the cast time as long as the servers aren’t f-cking up) and I feel like it’s not worth using Multishot at all if it’s just at lv.10. Max Swift Step is a no-brainer for 1:1 or high DEX builds. Twin Arrows is another burst skill when spammed, probably (but not sure) better than any Fletcher skill in terms of damage output per sec (until it goes on CD) but I could be wrong since I haven’t really played a Fletcher yet.

I can only see R1 being useful for Steady Aim, and all other skills becoming obsolete once you hit Fletcher. Having to go near the boss to deal 100% damage w/ Barrage seems a waste of a few seconds when you would have been dropping nukes at a distance, and there’s chance that you’d get hit and/or knocked down further lessening your overall DPS.

I’d appreciate it if you have a TOSbase link for your skill build to share as well as how you go about stats and equips.

Thanks in advance man!

EDIT: I went ahead and theorycrafted a build for A3 that might work for my playstyle:

Thoughts?

Barrage is one of the best skills in the game for skill-based archers, so I’d highly recommend getting rank1 of ranger for fletchers.

I know i give it a lot of flak for having poor scaling, but the skill itself is absolutely amazing.

What’s your usual skill rotation when WB-ing?

You don’t really do a set rotation, you do a priority-based system instead.

Magic Arrow
Broadhead Arrow
Flare Shot
Steady Aim
DMA
Barrage
Spiral Arrow
Multishot (only level 10+)
Barbed/Crossfire/whatever