You can do huge amounts of damage against a boss with that build.
The same as it always has, 5 seconds. So 15 seconds accounting for overheat with 16 second downtime.
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Seism (Oh boy)
At 5 stacks, increases hit count from 3 to 5…
is what they’d like you to believe. But we all know Seism is a fake multihit. So what exactly happens? Beats me : their spaghetti code probably does something really weird. What I do know is that it increases Seism’s damage by 113%, Target Modifier (so it’s additional to Seism’s own 70% and armor and stuff).[/quote]
What exactly do you mean with that?
Normal Seism is 170%.
With the 113%, do you mean one of the following
170% + 113% = 283%?
170% * (1+1.13) = 379%?
170% * 1.13 = 192%?
170 - 70 + 113 = 213%?
Or something else?
I just realized I said ‘additional’ in the post rather than ‘additive’.
It’s 100% (base damage) + 70% + 113% so 283%.
Under the current formula:
(Seism’s Skill Attack + Attack Power - Defense) * (100% + 30%) * (100% + 70% + 113%)
Where 30% = Wild Nature (5 stacks)
70% = Seism’s hidden modifier
113% = Seism’s wild modifier
Not accounting for all the excessive stuff like crits and elemental attack etc.
So with 5 Wild Nature stacks it increases in total from 170% to 367%.
That’s more than double damage, that’s quite nice.
I’ve been playing Barbgoon and it’s really awesome. Wild Nature saved Barbarian.
Since I’m a pvp memer I took Corsair c1 at rank 6, but the build is really solid, would be even better with doppel c1 at rank 6 thanks to how strong barbarian is.
Vid unavailable fam /20eon
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Does having higher levels of seism give significantly more damage?
Why would anybody go barb c3 after the Rebalance patch? 
Frenzy 10, C3 attributes,Giant Swing’s insane damage.
There’s plenty.
Giantswing is awfull to use and takes some time.
Its not even a Slash skill.
IT dont work on bosses too and has 60 seks CD.
Pouncing is good and the rest are buffs.
surely Skyliner+Bleed>Giantswing.
My bad. Fix’d /20warcrys
The removal of CD increases in attributes made Barb really solid,Warcry is spammable now,for example.
I suggest people take a look into skills with that kind of change.
Except maxed warcry/seism/frenzy the next 15 points?
Pouncing for sure. Especially with War Cry extending cleave, you can have that extra slash damage during pouncing the entire duration for boss fights.
Also great with Embowel’s 10~20s stun for tearing through grouped enemies.
Giant Swing is worth maxing for the raw nuke damage if you know how to use it well; If you have a pyro/cryo buddy you could swing their fireball or snow rolling into a boss too.
Cleave/Helm/Embowel are one-point wonders.
The last 2 points can go wherever. I just put them into Cleave for a bit more damage.
So as it turns out Warcry is extending non-Barbarian effects as well; I can extend the Lunge and Coquille debuffs from my fencer, and Stagger from Peltasta. Not sure if intended but this is absolutely great 
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I’m wondering, since frenzy and seism (I think) tooltips aren’t working for me in game, did they change something about frenzy’s buffs?
I’m going for a Sw3>Barb3>Goon2 (surely lancer is better but still want use goon 
).
Surely the lack of s.lunge effect of hop is bad later cause the goon skills are all for pierce attack (except d.soar), same for the 1hSpearMastery M-sized attribute, but I’m tired to use hop 
And Barb is really fun to use.
For sw3 i maxed DoubleSlash/PainBarrier, the next 25 point for concentrate/gungho? (15/10- 10/15?)
Neither got changed too dramatically.
Seism is now some weird multihit / fake multihit hybrid.
- It hits structures 3 times (5 with wild nature)
- The damage really is its % * the hit count, like actual multihits.
But then - It only gains Concentrate/Elemental Damage etc once
- It still crits like a fake multihit (all at once or not)
- It also still calculates the final number first before splitting it since the splits aren’t anywhere close to the % on the tooltip.
As for frenzy, it’s a 1.5% bonus per stack to your attack power now instead of a flat number. Also, it gives attack speed /o/
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Seism has been put in a weird state since the barb rework, for 1 or 2 days before a fast maintenance it was a true multihit (did many tests) and switched back to fake.
Now that is the interesting part, it means a barb3 doppel doesn’t need to invest in dex, except if one wants to get the crit damage with highlander I guess.
Thanks for your inputs!
So do you guys think that points in pouncing are worth it? I was kind of disappointed with the skill and its 144% scale and it was weird to use. Giant swing the damage is very high but I do not know if it’s worth cast considering the animation and damage type, another strange skill it is.