someone can answer me what will happen with the wasted money on the actual upgrades weapon?
imc decide refund the wasted blessed gems becaus the new enhaces will need less gem, its the same for upgrades but i dont notice if imc say something about
for example an regard horn staff +11 befor and after the balance
its almost 1/16 of the price…
How is it ‘wasted money’?
You pay the silver for enjoying the upgraded weapon now and taking advantage of the upgrade now… is that not an advantage over waiting until the update arrives?
If you don’t want to spend that money for that advantage now : feel free to wait with your upgrades until that update arrives.
I don’t remember them saying anything about reimbusing silver cost for upgrades, but i don’t think they should do that, because it’ll end in a huge clusterfck where everyone would want their silver back for every equipment piece they ever upgraded.
I think blessed shards are a special case, because they are much “harder” and in less quantity to obtain than silver, not to mention a limitation of hoiw many you cn get per day per character.
But a loot of players like me invest over $20.000.000 on silver. Upgrading 1 or 2 weapons BEFORE imc say anything about some balance. And when the silver was not easy to farm
U think its fair?
The game changes… that’s how things work…
By your logic, I want all the money I spent in public phones and old expensive cellphone calls back, as today people have it cheaper with whats app and the likes…
Or the Money invest on tp/costume if imc release some of that items has free?
I wouldn’t call that unfair. Just “unlucky” or “bad timing”.
It’s not like they knew that you were going to spend that much silver right before their announcement.
Ok, for the sake of the argument, lets say they give you your money back.
Then the next guy comes along and says “he got his money back? i upgraded my weapon 1 week ago. i also want my money back”. Then another “if he gets his silver back from 1 week ago then i want my money back from 2 weeks ago”, etc.
What would be the “fair” point in time where they’d consider an upgrade “too old” to be reimbuseed?
The only real “fair” thing would be to either reimbuse silver for everyone or no one. Should they reimbuse people for every single upgrade that was done since the release of the game?
As a fun thing to think about: Lets say they made upgrading more expensive instead. Would you allow them to force you to retroactively lose additional silver for every upgrade you have done? Like “Hey, we decided that every upgrade now costs 10millon silver… oh, javier, you have a +10 weapon that you made 2 days ago… we’ll retroactively subtract another 80 million from your player silver account during the next maintenance”.
To be hondest, after thinking about it, i think no reimbusement should be done at all, not even for shards… because it results in just this situation we have in this topic.
They should just announce their plans for changes 2~3 months before the implementation and tell everyone “if you don’t like spending so many shards now when in 3 months its gonna be cheaper, please wait with transing your gear. For those who spend the shards now : Enjoy your upgrades and advantages you’ll have for the next few months.”
The same example of the blessed,if imc decide refun the blessed gems to enhace u weapon to the same tracendence after the balance. Players who bring a 1h weapon to stage10 Will lose a half of their blessed shards and other that use 2h weapon Will get the full amount invested.
But imc Will refund every blessed invested on the current stage. Thats mean balance=>some fair to everyone
“CasualGamer” playing tree of savior?
ROFL
Yea I play ToS casually and I know my alts are more geared then your main. This is just from playing the game 2 hrs a day =).
In my case, 20kk for 2 weapons only on upgrade success. Never mind on the Money wasted on failure
Whatever, with that Money i could buy enough gems to tracendence my weapons to stage 5 or more and still have enhace 11 after the patch
By the way u can farm the items if u dont know. No one force u to buy and surely the same items thats u buy are for 1/4 of the silver that spend
Gems, , enhancement, transcend, anything you invest now, except class ranks and attribute cost turned into token attributes (which they could completely don’t give a fk), will not get a refund, don’t even get your hopes up.
It was always like this in every game ever: don’t mess directly with the game economy.
Using your logic, everything you obtained using your weapon (exp, items, silver, progression) would have to be confiscated (AKA rollback) because you used your weapon to conquer what you have obtained.
Deal with it.
Aww shiiit son you want a epeen battle? GTFO
where is"my logic" in that if i never ask to get the money back ? im just asking if imc say something about that considering that the cost of the upgrades will fall over 1/16 (in this case) of the actual price.
Welcome to life? Fair is such an overused term. If the system changes, it changes. That’s it. If they are willing to offer you something it’s a bonus. Allowing for shards/gems from transcendence is to retain players that invested significant time get or for attributes, which is another way you are getting silver back indirectly for both. However silver is easy to get, and like previous posters said, where would the line be drawn? Well, we know that too since they already discussed it.
If anything, you have an advantage now since you can use that weapon on an easy to level class, then refill ranks to another when patch hits. That would be “unfair” to people that didn’t level before, so should that not be allowed?
Also, if they did that, it would crash the game economy from a flood of silver. Would that be “fair”?
I bought and enhanced the best rank 7 gear available before they released rank 8, why don’t I get all my silver back?
why not ? if its the first change on the enhace sistem price, may be u can get a part of the money invest but the cost to upgrade a weapon 220 purple to 11 now is 280k and the same weapon after balance the price is 170k so u are losing less. if u understand some about mats
Blessed Shards are a special case because they take longer to get (Unless you have 10 toons or more) than silver, silver can be generated ANY TIME, not matter how, you can either get it trough market selling stuff, farming / grinding hours some maps etc, etc.
blessed shards in other hand not, even if you use the hammer to dismantled to get your gems you wouldnt get all the gems back unless your item have full potential since the % of getting back your stuff its based on the potential of the item. as well the only way to get or generated more blessed shards its doing saluus run, not only that the more char you have THE MORE TIME it need to get those shards (asuming you only get mausuleum and cannyon mission) with 10 or more chars its tedious because around the 6 chars you probably would quit. Unlike silver which you can do it with 1 char and more efficiently if the char have a build around farming silver.
keep your silver until the update, the day the announced this the cost reduction of equipment enchancing i didnt complained like you i said “cool i just will save my silver to mass upgrade the equipment of all my toons” this pretty a good news instead just taking it like “oh i want my silver back because i upgraded stuff and its unfair”
it is not unfair.
You know, 20M is inconsequential compared to the amount of Silver myself and many others have burnt to rank #1 through #5 on Adventure Journal (AJ) points for a statue in Klapedia (town) Ch1.
Add to that our spending on our own gear as well.
Last I heard they’re resetting that (AJ) and we’re not getting anything back.
So there’s that.
what about the atribute sistem? i heard that imc will refund the points based on the amount of money invest, its not the same ?
and make silvers is not the same that get silver. u can make silver only farming mobs and thats make a cap of max silver/ hrs
