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A few changes to this game that could make it more socialable and less stressful to play

@etirrn is actually right in her first answer, she just didnt need to be this toxic, but you were as toxic as her in your answers @FlanFlan.
Now this topic looks like a fight between two children.

@FlanFlan If i might say, i spend a lot of time reading the forums and i know you try to be constructive but sometimes you can be really demeaning to other peoples opinions and kinda childish, just like she was (but with more sarcasm and less insults), dont take it as an ofense but as a constructive feedback. When you do that to other people opinions it makes you look bad in the comunity and loose credibility, even if you have a good argument. Try not to be this salty with other people and try to ignore salty coments, thats what most people do.

I thought so. This is exactly what i think the main community problem is. Complainers turned toxic keyboard warriors. I find this more threatening to the enjoyment of the game than the bugs, game issues and even (oh no you didn’t) bots.

You do take the time to reply to them. “Don’t validate their bad manners” comes to mind, that’s my mom talking about me btw. Or even simpler:

I have no problem hearing badmouthed aholes IRL, in social or casual conversations, but to talk like that to a stranger just cause “daddy IMC won’t give me” or “lil johnny says i lie” is just… digusting? disturbing? i can’t even.

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Funny how you shot heavier at Flan. I’ve seen this @etirm raise the flames over absolutely anything in discussion. There’s limited time and patience to reply to people like that.

The thread was a simple suggestion, an opinion, and a mostly valid one imo. There was no need to get completely crazy over the suggestions, a simple “I don’t agree because…” would be enough.

Funny how you can find more reasonable people in the chans than in game forums nowadays…

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@STAFF_Amy @STAFF_John @STAFF_Ines I can’t flag more than once every 24 hours, apparently, so would you please do something about this kind of replies?

This is uncalled for, aggressive and offensive. Check the user’s other posts if you will. Help us keep it civilized around here.

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I would also like to get Melon’s and FlanFlan’s posts checked in this thread:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/it-sucks-but-this-game-might-shutdown-soon/288505/446

Aggressive, full of hate personal off-topic posts and disregarding of actual issues which affect the game.

Maybe give Swag Buckling to Swordsman C1 first.

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I shot at flan because he is trying to help and i want him to be heard, etirm is just a plain troll. I like his opinions and i want them to be voiced properly, but his sarcams and toxic behavior sometimes makes them lose credibility. I dont try to reason with this etirn girl cause she looks like a lost cause. And yes, ive seem flan been toxic, a lot actually just in a diferent way than this etirm.
If you couldnt tell this just by reading my post it looks to me that you already read it with “hater glasses”, dont be this salty man. This is just a negative feedback for improvement, not an insult.

Can you please just let this go already? This thread wasn’t, “Constructive feedback for FlanFlan”, it was “Constructive feedback for Tree of Savior”. By replying to this thread the way you have been, you’re also appearing ‘toxic’. Just because I’ve acted “toxic” in the past doesn’t mean you people can spam my non-toxic thread with your personal issues with me.

Which non-toxic thread? Your OP is literally you spewing about your issues which are only personal about the game’s actual features.

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I give up, i was just trying to help you with constructive feedback because you are 1- one of the most active players in the forum who actually wants the game to improve; but also 2- One of the most passive-agressive sarcastic trolls of the forum.
If you wanna keep with your distorted arguments fine, but dont complain when people dont take your posts seriously because you did it to yourself.

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If the OP is toxic then every non-positive thread on the forums is.
All issues with this game are in some way personal and subjective. Not everyone encounters the same problems or is annoyed by the same things.
You’re creating thread after thread about connection issues. I’ve never had any of your problems … so from my point of view you’re also complaining about personal stuff.

If voicing ideas and opinions is considered toxic now then there’s no need for any general discussion forum.

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That feeling when you make a constructive feedback post about Tree of Savior and a group of people decide to cancer it up with personal issues about you instead of talk about Tree of Savior while calling YOU toxic instead.

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I agree on every point, but IMC has bigger issues to worry about at this moment.

Gold sellers are wining the run if you didnt notice, game is slowly geting destroyed and nothing that IMC is doing stops them, not like theyr not trying.

I see it very black.

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It’s true. I just don’t see IMC having the skill and experience at dealing with this problem. This is basically how I see IMC:

there’s an addon that does this. well it doesn’t un-censor your chat. instead, it changes the characters of some known bad words automatically upon tiping, like S H I T to S H * T. oh and it also got this auto spam block feature… orsha and klaipeda have never been peaceful.

surespell on c1 is a quite terrible idea. wiz c2 will be practically useless. i mean like really. surespell is the only skill wiz c2 has to offer. LOL. this will change the entire wiz gameplay.

the game have already given us social spaces. i think the problem here lies within the community. people usually hangout before just by anywhere. nowadays, they tend to choose spots where they’d still be doing something, somewhere like market and storage npcs.
Fedimian actually have pretty good hangout spots, away from the crowd. its just that, people don’t want to.

Too bad EVERYONE has the connection issues, some of them to a lower degree and sometimes they don’t even know their connection isn’t running okay, everything depends on the base ping anyways.
I’ve seen people in this forum saying they were getting no lag with 0.06 ping, yet after running some tests they found out they should have been between 0.01 and 0.015 ping, but because 0.06 was a low value they didn’t know they were getting a terribly bad connection.
Back at you again, I doubt I have ever complained this much about a game feature like asking to remove PVP like Flan did, that’s nuts.

When did I ask for PVP to be removed? I said that my change suggestions might not be balanced with PVP because I wanted to focus on PVE. I don’t PVP and can’t give feedback on that at all.

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