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68% upgrade chance or how to burn silver in ToS?

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#1

So a little story of a little doppel that wanted to be a little stronger. Once I reached it +8 I was happy. Sadly didn’t record a video, but who knew that it will happen? It has began from 2 silver anvils that we had on previous event. First fail from +8 to +9, then 2nd silver anvil recovered it +8 and I was mad to lose 1 potential and wasted silver to force it be +9 and failed again. I chilled out because no more silver to even return it +8. I had it +7 for almost month and farmed enought silver to give it 2nd try of being +9.
Story begins with +7 sword and 8 potential(“pot” in future).

  1. Fail to +8(7 pot) weapon becomes +6
  2. Success to +7
  3. Fail to +8(6 pot) weapon becomes +6
  4. Fail to +7(5 pot) weapon becomes +5
  5. Success to +6
  6. Success to +7
  7. Fail to +8(4 pot) weapon becomes +6
  8. Fail to +7(3 pot) weapon becomes +5
  9. Success to +6
  10. Success to +7
    In the end I have no more silver again.

So why do I post this? Everyone like to laugh at other ppl fails. Here is the chance to have fun and laugh at me and my problem :sweat:

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#2

I feel for you, it’s a very poor system that punishes too harshly. I rolled this the other day as a joke:

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I wish IMC would remove the downgrade of the Anvil Enhancement on failure. Being punished by losing potential and silver is enough. Anvil Enhancement is actually a good example of the problem of Transcendence. Transcendence is so much better than other methods of upgrading items, in this case it’s purely RNG, expensive, and caused you to lose potential. By buffing Anvil Enhancement, even if it were just the change I proposed, then maybe capping it at +15 to stop it from getting too good, would actually go towards helping other balancing issues in the game.

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#3

I miss the old days where failure means immediate destruction of item.

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#4


Try this first before upgrading your gears = )

#5

only 350m silver

#6

that why i keep weapon at +7-8 and armor at +5-6

#7

im lucky with my bow 315… but i try to upgrade my sissel… go to +7 to +5 (1 potencial) i sell to pick other and stay in +7 now lol

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#8

no pain no gain, my friend. 3 poten means if you are lucky enough you can still manage to get to +15 with it. If you dont try at all then you will always stay in the same place

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#9

Where is my +15 gale slasher? Look it’s 3 potential like I have on mine +7 that have never been even +9
btw made it +10 without lose any potential.

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#10

it happens to everyone :expressionless: just unfortunate yours was the 315 weapon.

Luck can’t be as bad as mine… I tried upgrading armor to +4 and failed 3 times in a row at +3
EX:
+3 > +4 (Fail)
+2 > +3 > +4 (Fail)
+2 > +3 > +4 (Fail)

Hm… 88% success rate lol…

#11

Try upgrading level 1 armors and weapons till limit if it fail twice on the level 1armor/weapon then upgrade your main equips higher chance it will succed.

#12

this theory does not work. Try it urself before advicing. This was fixed out 6 months ago.

#13

I just tried it and I did say “chances” means it may or may not.

#14

I agree. It’s ultimately due to luck. There’s no “pattern” but for generated random numbers it is sometimes likely to stay too low for some time or too high for some time or just entirely “random”.

You can use a cheap item to “test” the RNG and if you feel confident, you try, if not, try later.

Proof:
“Good” RNG: +8 on all 3 Rhevisan pieces with 7-9 potential.
“Bad” RNG (on purpose): +3 Didel Tower Shield 0 potential. (I actually tried to get a +2 / 0 potential but I couldn’t.)

Example of how bad (low roll) or good (high roll) a random generated number can be for you:
https://www.random.org/dice/?num=20

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#15

My dear ,

I already did a topic pointing that this enchanciment specialy after level +10, is a complete waste of time and money on the end game, since is almost impossible to do even +13 without suffering more than gaining advantages.

But lots of people came to Defend this system, comparing to another games, like if this is the way it works, by LUCK.

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#16

Anvil refine is bait, keep it +5 /+6
rush for stage 10 transcendence.

#17

Well, a +7-+9 (not sure which one of this) Aspana of a friend compared to mine at +5 was like, he got the same damage as me one stage lower.

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#18

I know, but when you achieve 550% of multiplier any over in the weapon is just a mere bonus.
The anvil bonus are going to scale crazy in those +15 - +20 - +25.

+6 to +10, almost the same thing.
Keep your money, buy atributes. Just start thinking of anvil over if you have 900m ~2b to burn.

#19

Ya, I agree. I just think that +7-8 is still safe to get and give like around another stage. +5 is enough, I use +5 myself for now (low on silver).

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#20

not really safe for offhand though i tried overpolishing.manamanaa out of 23 tries i only manage to get 4 to 10 and one to 15. well was worth ot as it kinda as strong as aspana raw.

off hand weapons are kinda… i dunno main hand is good to go staying at 7 to 10 range any more is just having too much silver lulz

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