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2 Videos of Wiz 3 Ele 1 on basic Wiz 3 combo and Quest Boss fighting

So, suppose I want to be a full support mage, and take Wiz 3 with pure spr for an insane Reflect shield (it’d be what, 75+200?). What else would you do with the build?

Linker2, to give quickcast to someone better? Maybe even linker3, since I’m assuming I’ll be partying with another mage, I can take his int score and give him my spr.

Thaumaturge? The buffs are pretty darn great, and every class wants to use a dagger.

Chronomage? Nah, nobody would pick that.

I’m not really sure. Chronomancer is actually amazing if the bug is fixed.

The real problem is that Reflect Shield is kinda useless at late game. So I think going Cryo->Kino or linker would be better for support with CC.

Is…it? I wasn’t even aware of it being bugged and I think the class sucks xD

####Quicken
Potentially amazing, depending on what 300 actually means.

####Reincarnate
I guess its for blue mobs? Eh.

####Stop
Unless the game gets lots harder this skill is useless in PvE. massive cooldown, and it makes mobs immune.

####Slow
Yeah, alright. Crit resist means better chance to crit. Movement speed- is pointless though. Sleep is a stun that you can cast more often that lasts the same amount of time.

####Haste
So small as to be unnoticeable. Don’t cast this for fear of overwriting actually good buffs.

####Back Masking
5 minute cooldown? This had better ressurect bosses for a second kill.

Quicken, that’s all the reason you need for becoming a Chronomancer.

Do note that there isn’t much skill that increase your attack speed (3X if I’m not mistaken) in the game. It significantly boost the dps of your party.

Also, sleep don’t work on flying enemy.

Quick cast + linker to transfer the buff is crazy though.

base atk speed barely does any dmg though. Would be nice if it also decreased cast animation times

But other classes deal alot damage with normal attack. You tripled it.

Is it really 300%? That’s bonkers.

Here I am thinking of giving someone quick cast, when I could be giving all of the auto attackers in my party triple damage? huh.

I’m not really sure. The skill is bugged as for now. No one know how good it actually is.

Ehh, so I would take only 1 skill point for it, probably.

Energy Bolt’s second attack is only a visual effect. The skill is coded to do only one hit, you can test it yourself on a boss trap or on the dummies at the Highlander’s trainer house. Freezing Sphere should be the same.

[quote=“lyhonlam69, post:14, topic:114457”]
Electrocute is kinda bad since it’s dmg rely on freeze status
[/quote]There is bonus damage for frozen targets, but the skill doesn’t require it to be cast. OP can get Cryo later if he/she doesn’t like Rank 7+ classes too.

It could change with gameplay, but my build for this class path would be: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/pth8au7gj6/

Wizard C3 is a building block for future classes.

At the point where you just have Wiz+Ele, Pyro/Linker or Cryo/Linker and Ele would probably be better than Wizard, just because you have to wait on cooldowns for Ele spells while being a wizard, while you could have been using Pyro/Cryo+linker spells.

However, with that being said, Wiz3 will become more effective when you pick up another class aside Ele and add more diversity to your spells, than having Pyro/Cryo which will end up being just spells you never use anymore.

Yes you will have to level through your Teeth a bit with Wiz3 through the wiz+ele period but it SHOULD get theoretically better when you pick up another class after elementalist.

Also WIZ3>Ele>linker is also a possbility, which would further increase your dps capability.

You do have to realizey that Pyro and Cyro fall off eventually and you’ll end up with classes that you don’t use anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_O-YeD-Ro This is a video i found on youtube with Cyro 3 and Pyro 2 without elementalist, which shows how many spells you have to burn through to kill a few monsters, however these mosnters seem to have quite a bit of HP and i’m not sure whenther they are normal or elite dungeon monsters.

But either way, the way scaling works in this game, early class spells tend to fall off later because there is no % scaling on most spells.

That was just a show off video, completely overkilling stuff.

Pillar + Flame Ground would be enough. Even Flame Ground alone if you keep jumping in circles.
I think he also wanted to show you can “plug” Fire Ball to Rolling, which is pretty funny.[quote=“lawful3003, post:30, topic:114457”]
But either way, the way scaling works in this game, early class spells tend to fall off later because there is no % scaling on most spells.
[/quote]All skills have at least 100% scaling of your base + weapon attack, so the more you go into the game, the less the base damage you gain from skill level will matter.

You can always rely on another linker, I’m not really playing this as a all rounder…

I do not think there is any default bonus damage to fronzen targets from Lightning unless you are Cryo/Linker.

Cryomancer provides +50% damage with lightning against frozen targets from the Cryo Class Attributes and Linker also provides 50% from the Link attribute.
Both of which you have to learn when you have the respective class.

Wiz3>Elementalist does not have any additional damage to frozen targets with Lightning damage, atleast i don’t think it does, unless soemone can test this out and tell us if there is any default bonus.

EDIT: Also yes he was showcasing the spells but if you notice, flame ground alone does miserable damage to those monsters so you kind of have to use several spells to kill them either way, unless you want to run around those mosnters for a good 20 seconds.

Sadly it is NOT 3x attack speed. I had Archer C3 with Kneeling Shot lvl 10 (attack speed +375). Difference is noticeable but definitely not 3x, not even 2x. More like 30-40% buff.

It’s bugged now as far as I know.

It has. The problem is hail has a very low freezing chance compared to cryo’s skill.

Could you specify how high is the default freeze damage from lightning?

Electrocute itself has an attribute for more damage on frozen targets. But that is not the point. It is just that what you said before was like “Electrocute is useless without freeze”, but its not true, you are just not gaining those bonus numbers. The skill can be used and has its own damage.

[quote=“lawful3003, post:33, topic:114457”]
flame ground alone does miserable damage to those monsters
[/quote]2500 damage per tick is not miserable, lol.

Are you talking from experience? 2500 on Lv200 mobs? Look closer at the video, the 2500 ticks barely do any damage to the monsters HP, he had to blow up 20% of his SP to quickly finish the target off with multiple spells. In reality, if you’d just wait for those 2500 ticks, you’d have to run around for a good 10-15 seconds around those mobs.

going to ask this here as well, has anyone tried how quick cast amplification works with summoned pets from sorcerer or necromancer? or if it interacts at all

Yeah its visual effect but the hidden 1.5x dmg multiplier of freezing sphere and energy bolt is true. And quick cast only add another 1.5x to the base dmg. Hmm, its hard to explain this since english isn’t my first language.
For example: my matk is 540, lv 5 freezing sphere is 581. it deal ~2k dmg on the Kowak mob.
(540+581 + mamp/attribute) = ~1300 x 1.5 = ~2000
With quick cast it only add another 1.5x dmg (~650) to the base dmg (~1300) which is ~ 2600 total.
Its kinda bad but the hidden 1.5x actually scale pretty good so i think this skill is worth maxing. Especially its pretty good for pvp.

True, but the raw dmg is pretty bad, useless in boss fights and pvp (actually its good for destroy traps lol)
I just tried reskills it to lv10 to see if it can get any better but…nope.

Look miserable to me, notice there are 50% weakness bonus so the actual dmg is only ~1700 and it tick much slower frost cloud.

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