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2 Videos of Wiz 3 Ele 1 on basic Wiz 3 combo and Quest Boss fighting

Wiz 3 Combo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiWNHzr2ufg
Video on boss fighting as Wiz 3 Ele 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dluKwf3XHC0

I’m not sure the boss soloing is a good demonstration though, as that boss seems easy.

My build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yvum8omq4x/

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Seems good to me, obviously there is a lot of downtime when waiting on Ele skills since you didn’t pick up Cryo or Pyro but overall, i don’t know, its a safer bet than doing cryo or pyro, when it comes to new unreleased classes and scaling in this game.

I actually uploaded these video so that others can compare pyro/cyro to this build.

Nice videos. That jp voice tho, I will be using it! :heart_eyes:

I would only take Reflect Shield if my build was heavily focused on SPR and I could at least take it to level 10. Otherwise it is really useless later in the game.

IMO, for your build it is better to take those points and dump on Energy Bolt, so you can cast it faster.
Level 1 requires full cast bar, level 2 requires half cast bar for EB1 and full bar for EB2, level 3 requires 1/3 cast bar for EB1, 2/3 for EB2 and full for EB3, and so on.

So with a higher level you can cast lower versions faster.

On elementalist, I would take some points out from Meteor, Freezing Sphere or Fost Cloud, since they only gain base damage per level, and get the other skills you have at 0 for more utility and DPS.

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Thanks for the advice!

I actually reduced the Energy Bolt to level 1 as it has much lesser SP cost, and the level don’t scale well at later game. I forgot about the cast time though.

I added Reflect Shield to level 5 just for utility (duration slightly longer than cooldown), in order to avoid stray bullet (I can’t keep up a perfect control).

I have to test myself on the elementalist skill level though, my idea is just to maximize the power from elementalist skill. I’m not even sure if the level will be significant on the damage (calculation wise it seems so for such a high base damage).

Tbh I’m not even sure where to put those points if I remove it from that 3 skills, except for prominence.

Prominence at 1 would be enough, since it only gets base damage with levels too.

To me, Rail and Electrocute are the best damaging skills Elementalist can spend points, since they have more benefits besides base damage.
This is a little subjective since I don’t know the mechanics of all of his skills.

Can Rail and Meteor be realeased as lower level versions with reduced cast time, like other casting skills, or they always require full cast?
How does Freezing Sphere works? I’ve never seen a video with someone using it. I only assume it is not that good since the simulator doens’t tell it is a multi-hit skill.

Hail can only be used when full cast. Electrocute is really bad on Wiz 3 Ele 3 due to the damage calculation, but has well synergy with cryo ele build.

I’m not sure about meteor though.

Some Wiz 3 Ele 2 told me that Freezing sphere is energy bullet with shorter cast time and much greater damage.

I think that maxing out Reflect Shield will actually bump your survivability by quite a bit.

I mean you should have around 50 SPR by the time you are 100, more or less and with maxed 15 shield you would be blocking 125 damage per hit for a lot of hits and basically have the shield on all the time.

A maxed shield compared to a non maxed one, absorbs 50 more damage and lasts 9 hits for 95 seconds.

That boss in the video seems to hit you for 150-200 and the maxed shield could realistically reduce that damage down to under 100, no?
EDIT: Seems like the pet was getting that damage instead of you actually, hah. Either way it should lower the damage on each hit by quite a bit, as i see that the boss hit you several times with 300 damage spells.

People have said that a maxed shield with decent SPR will be good into the 150ties.

Also people seem to suggest you drop points out of maxed spells and put 1 points into the others.

Thats good if you don’t mind the SP drain and also do note that 4>5 9>10 14>15 skill ups provide the most damage boost for spells.

Yes you could realistically run a 1 pointer isntead of 5 points in a certain spell, but they usually tend to do twice less damage and the higher you go into the circles of a class, the less useful those spells become compared to the ones you actually put points into.

I usually don’t receive attack from boss. I over-rushed in this demonstration I guess (I’m going for the perfect dodge play to compensate for the lack of resistance).

What’s the formula for Reflect shield? From what I heard the mobs will be ohko anyone at higher level anyway, that’s why I don’t put much thought into defences.

Hmm, I actually maxed out earthquake and Magic Missle because they scale best through combo. I’m not really sure how useful is them at later game. I might reduce their level if they proved to be less useful.

It’s really hard to adjust the skill build when so many things are unknown…

Reflect shield is said to be Base+SPR so the higher your SPR, the more it blocks off.

Imagining that full SPR Wizards get tickled by mobs through that shield.

But it fall off when the mobs are dealing thousands of damage.

True, however blockign even 200 of that damage helps when they hit for 1k or 2k.

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I had level 5 RS at base level 183 with 60 SPR. It was pretty useless, sadly.

You will face archers, mages, multi-hitting melees, bosses hitting like trucks…
Rather than relying on RS, putting some CON was much much better.

I can only see it working well with a Wiz C3 full support build, being the other classes Linker, Thauma, Chrono, Alch, or the like, than splitting stats on just CON/SPR (and 4+ monster gems for RS).

Freezing sphere:

Yeah, its energy bolt ver 2.0 but much stronger and half the cast time (almost instantly with quick cast). Similar to energy bolt the addition hit doesn’t get boosted by quick cast’s 50% dmg. :frowning:
Reflect shield still kinda useful for me now but i guess it won’t take long until it turn to useless.
Electrocute is kinda bad since it’s dmg rely on freeze status but hail’s freeze is pretty unreliable and Rain’s cooldown is too long (2mins)
Also i just noticed 255% overkill boost x4 exp so meteor is really great for grinding. :smiley:

Looks like I have to consider how much CON to add then.

@lyhonlam69
Energy Bolt deal 50% extra damage on it’s own (if you add them up). Combined with quick cast, Energy bolt deal a total of 100% extra damage (not 1.5*1.5 = 2.25 though).

I assume Freezing Sphere will be the same.

I havent confirmed this but from experience I haven never gotten spell cancelled with reflect shield on. Felt like reflect shield = surespell. Can someone confirm this?
Also Wiz3Ele3 is probably better than cryo2/pyro2+ele3. Not too sure about cryo/pyro+linker+ele3 tho cause link really increases overall dps by a lot. However at ele2 wiz3 is definitely weaker than pyro2+ele2 (maybe equivalent to cryo2) simply from the lack of skill spam.

Yes, reflect shield can work as sure spell. But you have limited charges on it.

Reflect shield doesn’t stop spell cancelling in pvp.
Some boss attacks will still cancel your spell charge, usually by tossing you into the air. I’m unsure if Surespell will stop the cancel in that situation.

think its 5 for lv 5? more than enough to pull off 2 spells :smiley:
after that youll be waiting on cds more than anything lol
Edit @dmhamilt Never used reflect shield in pvp. 1vs1 cryomancer is op lol.
Once you get frozen youre kept frozen until you die. Freeze roulette w/ice bolt > ice wall surround > majorly screwed

It will not be enough to pull off even one spell against a bunch of mobs.

Then again, if it’s against a monster, you won’t even need it.

I usually just have it on to prevent stray bullet.