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2 players using obviously exploited gear

sadly this is the reality. even if they start ban exploiters. this wont change nothing. people wont comeback to a MMO with death servers. steamdata said everything.

I wanna see these cheater/exploiters in the town square while getting hanged and burned to death then delete their ToS and steam account :smiling_imp:

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obscurantism and jazz

IMC actively banning bots and cheaters??

…is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Cheaters caught in a landslide, No escape from reality. :imp:

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How the f… do you know they did not had a Druid or Rogue? What makes you 100% sure? Are you the mother of those two? Cleaning lady, who snoops their computers? I want an answer to this please. Euphie was controlling 3 accounts (Rembo, Bahjus, Euphie). What makes it soooo impossible of having a 4th hidden account? or maybe Raizon had a 2nd? And did you ever consider, that Esia wanted to reveal the method aswell? Not only those 2 scrubs?

@moderators why weren’t these players in the latest banlist? We know they were banned but you’re not telling the community? Oversight? Or holding back for a news post?

I really think you’re missing an excellent piece of good news that players would like to hear from you by not shouting very loudly about the abuse/exploiters that you hit with the hammer. It is a mistake to be quiet about it, not only because people think that you do nothing but also because when you make people think you do nothing then it encourages exploiting/cheating.

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One of my guildmates suggested that banned exploiters should be carved into a stone statue in the middle of town in game.

I kind of like the idea.

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Let me break it down for you. The thing in which separates those who test content and report bugs vs those who exploit loopholes found in the system is the intent behind the action. Sure these players are not thugs, criminals, hackers etc, but their motive in utilizing the loopholes in the game is clear. They want to use it to gain an unfair advantage over others. In the cyber world, one doesn’t need to be a thug or a criminal to break the TOS of the application or game, it can be anyone.

What you are doing is just trying your best to package it as something harmless like playtesting, and spectacularly failed in doing so. There is a clear difference between murder and manslaughter, although the end result is causing the death of another.

Yes these guys deserve the ban hammer.

I’ve seen a player on Telsiai yesterday with a glowing red +20 Superior Corona Rod 7/9 potential after my Skull Bow got broken.
At first I thought it was due to being transcended, but I’ve read that it’s not.

I’m hoping the devs would find time in evaluating this exploits.
@moderators

Get your foul vegetables ready, folks!

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actually, you can upgrade to +20 without losing a potential, pretty sure that’s not an exploit… (i did that to a lowbie bow before on cbt) rngesus is real for kami-sama rofl

but multiple +50 is a big no no no

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Wtf, I can’t even upgrade to +10 without breaking the items. That’s obviously cheating there is noway you can upgrade from +20 to +60 without breaking the item or without degrade the enchanting without failing. The golden anvil should degrade the enchanting from +12 or higher If it fails back to +10. That’s what the description says.

Ok enough tears already
No matter by what means they did it, they abused the game and broke the terms of service.
They did this knowing full well what they were doing and continued doing because they believed IMC to be incompetent and not punish them. They used this abuse to create benefits for themselves and their in game friends in detriment to others. They used these abused items in both pvp and pve. So yes, they did a lot of harm to a lot of players while of course creating benefits for their in game friends. Which is why they are the only people that are defending them now. They are defending them because their guildmates’ abuses brought them many WB and ET cubes and now they are trying to sugar coat their actions with melodramatic bullshit.
Their punishment was obviously just. If IMC wouldn’t punish cheaters half the population would be running around with +50 gears and the other half would quit. Sadly some people are not righteous by themselves so they need to fear punishment in order not to break the rules.
I just have some questions for the defenders. How do you know what method was used to upgrade gear? Did you also use it? And if you didn’t why not? Since you think it’s perfectly fine to do so…

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Aren’t the ban posts generated automatically at 6am server time (same time as dungeon/mission reset), so noon for GMT+1? If so, if they’ve been banned after that time, they’ll show up in the ban post tomorrow.

I dont think that +20 is exploit. I actually was able to upgrade 2 items to +20 without potential loss. But +50 is a diff story.

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it is like to write , "We banned 7 bots for week "
Players think "is great! , now without bots play = )

you know something about probability?

lets say you get a +10 weapon, ok its totaly possible with a lot of luck, now lets say you want to upgrade this, in theory its always 51% of chance and its look really ok but its not, try to flip a coin 10 times and get all heads from it…

lets see the probability, one coin 1/2= 50%, 2 coins 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4 = 25%, 3 coins 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/8 = 12,5% … the calculus is 1/2^n where n is the final refinament you want to get.

ok now let see the chances of get a +20 from a +10 weapow

1/2^10 = 0,09765625% the chances of that not fail…

or lets see a +50

1/2^40 = 9,094947017729282379150390625e-11

i think its easier to win the lottery.

We banned them , but I still take away the bosses and cubes in ET. +50 Cafrisun and + 40 grand cross does not give anything . All that is needed is for the bosses isbality 5+ and flatcher profession . A tower for the team to play . Every day we are increasing our records but not change gear, simply because they are able to take it ) I understand that you are noob and envy . But before doing so , you need to understand a little bit in the game mechanics .

as soon as I started writing I have ranked them . This is your justice ? = ) I took them to the guild on the same day that all of it had escaped . Were any of the escaped cheaters ? Undoubtedly ! I nothing to fear , because I was . As you can see , I’m still in the game and still WB and ET. And I do not use +50 gear because I do not have this and do not need to win. But people like to believe in fairy tales , especially noob )