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Your product has potential, could you fix it please?

I will not sit around and tell you guys what is wrong with the game, will not bash on where did you make your mistakes. I just want you to know that it has potential, a lot of work was put in this.

It can be great, people, I swear. Heck if I could make a Private server just to show you guys how to fix this mess I would.

I know most of the decisions were not made by the same staff that are now trying to clean up. And I’m not saying it’s easy or any of you don’t know how to deal with this. I’m just saying that it can be fixed, it has potential and you are tackling it at the wrong side.

Take away linear progression, make all jobs viable, it will need a new server, it will need a full remake of the game as it is. I’m not saying it can or will be done in a short time, but you have to decide, are you going to watch all this work slowly fade, or you’ll make it work.

2 examples for you, for research;

9dragons - What not to do

Final Fantasy XIV - What to do

I’m really trying to reach you, I know you are not liking the way the game is going and there’s a lot of jobs hanging in this project.

@STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Ines

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I would love a re-release of the game with major changes like ffxiv did but sadly I just don’t see that happening. I truly hope they do though, this game is a mess and really needs some love, I really enjoy ToS and what it could become.

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Paging @hkkim

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re-release re-release

I thought it was suppose to be great in 2020 because we’re still in open beta phase.

But I’m sure a lot of us won’t be sticking around for the official release.

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I was hoping to get some kind of response from the @Staff, at least a “Don’t worry bro, we will not let TOS become one of those MMO that is kinda dead kinda alive, and goes by milking a couple of whales until they dry out so we could sell the game for any unknow publisher”

Looks like it’s asking too much. See ya folks

Nice post, but IMC will not care.

Similiar suggestion have already been made but guess what? Zero changes happened, so dont get your hopes up. You will end up getting IMC’ed for sure.

huehuehue

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Mr Kim sold part of IMC to Nexon, Nexon will soon fix iTOS with p2w cash shop.

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nexon will increase the spawn rate … and make it an actual grinding game … just like itos…
nexon will introduce nice game contents with high end gears and kawaii gear in cash shop~
nexon will probably rerelease it with a new server and heavily marketing the games… just like itos…
nexon will make the game great again just like President Donald…
all hail nexon~

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Nexon will Make TOS Cash Shop Great!

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Example of what to do: Oldschool Runescape

Seriously I’ve been getting back into OSRS recently and it reminds me of what I loved about oldschool MMOs like Ragnarok. You get thrown into the game after a brief guided tutorial and then you go do whatever the ■■■■ you want. You aren’t put on a constant quest treadmill, most of the quests are just a few episodes each (or a totally standalone experience) and all of them are completely optional and don’t massively boost your progression. Game gives you a bunch of ■■■■ that you can do, including many things available to start doing right at level 1, and pretty much tells you to go find your own way.

Obviously it’s got major antiquated design issues of its own, retained as part of its old school charm, but the basic principle behind it of just being dropped into a world where you forge your own path and don’t have your hand held the entire time is what I’d hoped for with ToS based on its RO roots. Instead we’ve got the typical modern MMO linearity.

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I know I’ve said this multiple times in my past comments but I just want to point out that FFXIV reborn is imo a wow-clone and is not something I’d like TOS to become.

However the idea of a putting lots of effort into making it good is good.

Another thing is I feel even though you expressed some opinions, you had no concrete points of what are good or bad. Reading it is like saying this game can be better than it is right now but without any explanation on why and how. No offense here but just saying I feel this is not really helping.

Nexon will make their wallet fat again

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So, make every class in the same role the same bland flavor with the same type of skills and numbers only differing in how flashy they are?

To be fair, ToS is not wholly that different from that game in that sense. FFXIV’s gameplay is duller than WoW’s, but ToS’s is not going to win awards for how engaging it is that is for sure. As or your shade: Final Fantasy has always been about flashiness over effectiveness.

ToS hasn’t been trying to be like anything, and that is the problem as it seems to come off as it lacking identity outside of its art style and RO. MANY Eastern MMOs have tried to be like WoW or other popular MMOs released in the West.

I’m pretty sure his bigger point on “Do what FFXIV did” is “Massively overhaul almost all of your game’s systems to fix the core complaints people have instead of just applying bandage fixes like you’ve been doing.”

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Pulling a FFXIV for TOS may have been believable only if they did not conceive or even just say a word about the mobile remake.

Right now, anything they say that goes along the line “fix iTOS” is just horsesh!t until actually implemented.

Should we invest on a failing product, or on one that’s yet to be released but very promising and will likely rake us in more cash considering the target market alone?

Thanks for understanding.

I wish I had a cookie for you.

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