Which one you guys recommend ?
Can I have some CC with the first one ?
Which one is the funnest ?
And about Wiz > Cryo3 > Sorc2 > Warlock ?
Thanks !
First one is better for PVP overall, with great DPS staying in the back line, second one is better for x1, but second one is also a great support for open pvp battles.
The first one can do PVP without CC ?
Actualy that’s a very simplistic point of view, there’s no real backline in real PvP. Everyone is kiting and throwing spells.
Por PvP Cryo 2 > Kino 3 > WL wins easily.
Cryo 3 > Sorc 2 > Warlock is also food for PvP, though you are in a very bad spot against PDs or dispeller scrolls, which almost everyone is anyway.
“Theres no backline in PVP”. Seems like you never made any PVP in the game, right? Staying after tanks/melees in a normal thing in any arena and GvG battle in ToS. If wasnt that way, Warlock wouldnt be so OP for that as the kTOS show us.
You forget about how a cryo 3 kino 3 with sub zero shield or cata 3 can easily teleport or run in to fuk up your back liner. Yes, there are counter to them, but it’s kinda hard unless your guild or party is really coordinated with right composition.
To OP, why don’t you consider a cryo 3 kino 3 though? It has good burst damage, great control which can’t be dispelled by dispelled or bloodletting, crazy defense against glass cannon with subzero shield.
Protips to beating ele in pvp = jumping. All the most dangerous spells are avoidable by spam jumping (even when you’re slept) with the exception of warlock spells and hail. There just isn’t a way to lock a player into your strong spells without the help of another class, electrocute is nice when people are grouped.
Psychokino is easily the most powerful wizard pvp class, there is no way to fully counterplay any cc class that can keep you useless for 20 seconds every 50 seconds and bypasses cc immunity. Warlock provides more burst (usually 100%>0% in raise with theurge and pole, but huge cooldowns) while cryo 3 provides more defensive control (ice tree/rolling/full uptime sub shield).
I never made any PvP?
I was doing GvG for 2 hours yesterday. There is no backline on normal maps where you keep running all the time trying to find some dudes.
On 5 vs 5 there is some sort of backline, but anyone can break through that.
Elementalist skills are all land-deployment, they deal good damage but can be easily avoided if you are good or fast enough. Those skills are for PvE.
You say warlock as if that’s an advancement of Elementalist. It is not. Most Cryo-Kinos end their ranks with Warlock because Warlock is REALLY good in PvP. That’s why you have so many warlocks on the top 50 from kToS.
Cryo 3 > Kino 3 is very good for PvP as said above, but you really lack some finishing moves with that build, and that’s what Warlock gives you.
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How about you? How much PvP have you done besides 1x1 against random dudes in random maps?
I’ll just ignore people saying that there is no backline on PvP, thats just not true, and thats why Warlock work very well on GvGs and Arenas.
Also, the CC classes like Cryo/Kino are nice, but Dispeller just kill them. Its nice for x1, since noone really spend Dispeller on duels, but for GvG and Arena its very simple to counter.
And again: Pole of Agony is just a dream for PvP. You’ll never be able to use it properly, only if the target decides to not use any dispeller and do the favor to jump into your Sleep.
Most kino CC can’t be countered by dispeller and bloodletting. And subzero shield dmg reflect is absurdly broken.
Actually, some ele 3 doing good in gvg just because the horrid 5fps make ppl hard to avoid their Frost Cloud or cancelling their Meteor.
For pure effectiveness in pvp nothing better than cryo/kino.
In the case of cryo/kino > wl, is cryo 3 better than kino 3 ?
Also, Im putting INT/CON 2:1, what do you think ?
Thanks, guys !!
As for my experience, ele 3 Warlock do good in gvg with teammate’s cc or invulnerablity buff because they destroy others extremely fast. Another good point is they are probably the best spawn camper in open field war.