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With all these restrictions, one would think gold sellers are having a really hard time, right? (Proof inside)

The point is not on 9m vs 100m. The gold seller will still earn as much, except that now for the same amount of cash they only have to provide 9m instead of 100m, thanks to IMC’s policy.

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Actually the more accurate is that analogy is that. Because it’s dangerous to go outside IMC decide to ban everyone from leaving their house.

Basically the way we are being handled is some next level dictator ■■■■.

I mean… I’ve had friends use the sell a cheap item at an expensive price to send them some silver to help with funds… hopefully that doesn’t come back to bite me…

can anyone name a populated game without botters where ingame currency is tradable and useful?

honestly, i’m not even noticing them anymore… don’t really care if they spam in /say chat

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Not saying is perfect, but they have to start somewhere.

More like:

It’s dangerous to go outside, we are currently on a watch, no one leave their home until we solve the problem. I bet once they find a way to deal with this, more options to trading will be added.

They can easily put a 5 TP token to allow trading for a week or for x days. Since everyone have 5 TP, will be in a way “free” to trade. But they won’t be adding this until the RMT still a huge problem.

Probable not, RMT must have some kind of patterns on their trades and a donation of 50~200K isn’t going to make you a gold seller, unless you donate 900K, if so… can you add me as your friend :heart_eyes: *joke

Much of the playerbase have not been able to farm upwards of 500k yet. Which means the full capacity to trade tokens instead of RMT has not fully been seen yet.

For the first few days I have seen that RMTer’s were consistently more expensive than buying a token and selling it on market for 500k. Granted that at this point token sales will likely be slow, owing to no 1:1 trade & really high exp rates already.

We will have to see how this progresses to make a conclusion if Token indeed is helping or not helping with RMT.

The token had dropped to 350k now though.

Since they made the announcement, you do realized that they will keep on going with their way, right?
I support IMC in this.

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Like they did with the EU/SEA servers ?
I didn’t support imc bs back then, I still don’t support it.

How does that change anything. If people can’t even leave their home that’s called imprisonment.

Same reason why government doesn’t stop you from having basic human rights. This shouldn’t be the solution.

My money on yes, it’s helping. Because it creates something powerful you can get with a lot of silver.

Players know that “Founder’s Token” is better than the normal one, and so they want to stack as much as possible to keep their privileges to a year or two.

Since day 1 I saw Tokens being sold for 300~500K at AH. I remember I was lvl 25 when I saw some tokens vanishing from the AH, and sure as hell no one got those silver honestly. I’m not saying that RMT exist because Tokens exist, only that made ppl desperate to get silver, to stack those tokens.

No game in the history of gaming has ever had such issues of RMT lol. This isn’t even out in “public release” yet and RMT bogeymen are here to get everyone. It’s like the war on terror or something. The public truly believes RMTers are some super powered bad guys here to rape your women and steal your baby.

“oh my god baby, I saw a Goldseller! There he was with his greedy little hands. And a tail! Omg I think I saw a tail too!”

IMC has tricked so many. Yes believe you sheep. RMT is to blame for everything wrong in this game lol

That’s likely because the player base is still very under-farmed. I’m in top 10% of player and have a disposable of ~200k right now. And I was not spending a lot of time on quests, instead I was doing collections / wings of vibora that made me farm a lot.

Also how many tokens do you need… just 1 for the first month. Many in this game right now paid for EA, and likely has token. The $9.99 players only need 1 for the first month so demand is likely understated right now. Once the F2P launches you’ll see the price shoot up.

I still think the Token system is a good way to deter RMT, once the community starts farming up enough silver and start picking up that demand on Tokens.

The white knights are seriously making me cringe, are you all so far up IMC’s behind that you can’t see their restriction is ENCOURAGING people to use the silver selling services? I’m honestly getting tired of repeating myself and I’m sure others are too.

If the RMTs weren’t making anything off this they wouldn’t waste as much resources on it. Paywall restrictions + the greed of players is what is causing a vicious cycle of giving money to IMC for Token but on the same hand also giving the RMT money because hey… would you rather pay $10 for a token, or $30?

Think about that one for a second.

Paywalls are BADDDDD… They could put other restrictions that don’t involve paying that wouldn’t hurt the player nearly as bad and do better damage against the bots.

And your point is that IMC is creating the Token just to punish (/profit) legit players?

In times of need the government can restrick your rights, it’s called state of emergency. I guess where you live you never experienced that, but they can, and not aways for the wrong reasons.

The other thing is, this is a game and it’s their game. They can restrict you from everything, they can even make you not allow to play the game at all (IP BLOCK/REGION LOCK) or even make you have to pay to enjoy what they are offering (B2P)…

You can’t compare MMO with real life, you choose to play this, on their own terms. You didn’t choose to be alive.

This may indeed be true. Instead of buying gold to filthy goldsellers, whales will buy it from imc (thru the token). I can live with it.
Is this a valid reason to hide trading behind a paywall ? No. imc are lying when they say that it prevents RMT, it’s only a bad way to make tokens more appealing to the masses.

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So you’re saying that without restrictions, no one would be buying silver from RMT?

Maybe you’re the one far up RMT’s behind to realize the BS coming out from your mouth. Tell me then, how to solve RMT problem? Since you got all the answers…

Dude… just leave if it’s not good for you. Just go…

Tbh this market system is hurting me more than I think. I have a few hundred k sitting in market and I can’t utilize them to farm faster.

I don’t think Token will ever deter RMT though. I just can’t see how token will affect me if I was the RMT.