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Why TOS is now doomed outside USA/Europe

Well, that’s the problem…
What they’re saying about “Customers are always right” is a stupid saying. People who say that quote is arrogant and who doesn’t know the nature of business.
Two parties that agrees into something and made a deal that’s what business all about. The relationship between the Dealer and the Customer.
If they don’t agree to each other, it’s not business…its argument.

Ok you’ve done your part. However, does it mean you are a Customer, that doesn’t mean you have the right to say whatever you want. There should be respect.
Dealers and Customers have a needs to each other. A Customer doesn’t exist if there is no Dealer, and a Dealer doesn’t exist without a Customer. You don’t have to play like as a Customer, you are more important than the Dealer. Even Dealer doesn’t have to do that because they need each other Otherwise, it will only lead to an argument, not business.

Now all we can do as customers of this game is to do their jobs in resolving the issues.

Just a guess. If I were IMC, 15-20 percent lost revenue is better than 70-80 percent lost revenue. Anyone who runs a business would know that.

Quite a hilarious hypocrisy going on in your answer. Unlike you I didn’t even attempt to generalize anything or insult Brazilians as a nationality. Just stated facts that are directly related to ToS and to this topic in particular. It was clearly stated by IMC that one of the major reasons for these changes was abuse and exploits of the payment system. Bots were in game since day 1, but these changes happened immediately after Boleto abuse topics which indicates that it also made a contribution for such changes to be made.

So basically you accused me of racism and generalizing, while I never said anything like “all BR are trash”, then you proceeded to make some actual and quite a dumb looking racist comments yourself, with insulting unimaginative “generalizations” that don’t even have anything to do with ToS. I think you need to at least triple your intelligence before talking back to people whenever you feel insecure and your fragile self-esteem gets hurt.

All I was trying to point out is that BR players directly affected these changes and IMC couldn’t come up with any other emergency ways of countering this kind of abuse (if you got better ideas how to fight it perhaps you could suggest those instead of whining), so don’t make it sound like those players are victims here.

Also, don’t want to disappoint and make you feel even more insecure, but no I’m not an American, so you’re wrong yet again.

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Well wow, is this post still active? its barely 2 weeks left before its f2p, and the overreaction for “overpriced” Early access package is still going on, wow.

In worse case you guys will “suffer” from 30% discount later anyway, i recall thats what all dlc’s will be on the last week before f2p launches.

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Yes, of course I’m a victim, I did nothing wrong and got fcked with those new prices. Yes, I did a lot of dumb generalizations to make more evident how this kind of though is stupid and invalid, the same way (but less intense) you said with “because of br’s so fck off”. Well, if you’re not american, why won’t you tell me where you’re from? Pretty comfortable there criticizing me, who had the courage to expose myself in this post, while hiding behind your own anonymity?

You could more or less argue that BR’s were one of the reasons they changed their price systems, but it’s far from being the sole motive. There was people using vpn’s out there too to buy TP for less money. I even heard somewhere that buying it from Russia would cut the cost by 2/3.

Also, you can’t say that a “solution” that hinders much more honest players than cheaters is a valid solution at all. That would be the same as drinking a poison to try to combat cancer, or something. It’s IMC’s task to find a more suitable change. I don’t know any definitive measurement, but then again, it’s not my job and I’m not the one gaining any profit from it; far from that, I want to spend my money in TP.

The prices are not new.

IMC advertised 50USD as the price since the beginning, some regions just got lucky with discounted pricing.