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Why sea server still lag :((

Even if we talk only about EA there still is a choice pay or don’t IMC can’t force you to make a payment to them but yes it you want to play the early access you had to pay. So IMC still isn’t MAKING you do anything. Maybe a small thing but people pretending like they don’t have choices or are being forced into things is a peeve of mine.

I don’t hold back in spam threads because i do not care if they get closed. In legitimate topics that don’t spam, i can be quite pleasant.

While it is true that I have a choice on whether or not I purchase the EA, the choice in itself in this case does not matter.

Here’s the thing, the moment IMC put a price tag on TOS exclusive access which is basically an early access, I as a consumer have a certain level of expectation for the game to at least be functioning and relatively stable.

The EA is a product and I am the consumer. I expect it to be stable and a fun experience just like how I expect my internet to work and not fail, otherwise I’ll have to make a phone call and complain about the issue (not the best analogy but I hope you see what I’m trying to say)

Also right now the main issue as I have stated just now in my previous few posts, is the fact that IMC is forcing us to make a choice that actually has repercussions on our end. This only happened because the servers ■■■■■■ up.

Anyways, I agree that people who keep pretending like they don’t have a choice or they are forced to do things are annoying.

But you have to understand that they, we are actually forced to make a choice, whether we like it or not, and that is a fact.

Its fair to have expectations but remember with early access you are not paying for the product your paying for bonus’s and to play early, the product itself is “free”

absolutely but thats everyday life, everything we do or interact with forces us to make decisions whether we acknowledge them or do it sub consciously.

Edit: Also regarding the repercussions, i agree that it is unfortunate and inconvenient. But generally people choose their friends / enjoyment over a little money.

DAED GAEM 200ms

/20DEADSERVER

gun to your head, they took your wallet. you had no choice in the matter. yep, that’s how it went.

population deflation is obviously NOT the -best- solution. but players will quit eventually anyway. and players will transfer eventually anyway (once it becomes possible).
the best solution obviously IS to increase server capacity… so what, you think you’re saying something they can’t realize on their own? it would also be the -easiest- solution too. if they are -not- increasing capacity, this logically tells us that there is some reason they cannot do so.

IMC has always stated that new servers would be created as old ones fill up. they are proving true to this statement with the announcement of Verena. what else could they do?

this was really the point that was being made from the start.

geez, you sure like to post that.

Hi guys, I think that the over populated server is making everyone angsty.

All kinds of unnessasary arguments are starting because of this.

Lets just sit back, relax and enjoy the game.

:slight_smile:

Yep good job just quoting those 4 words. How about quoting the entire sentence or paragraph for that matter?

  1. It is a fact that we have been forced to make a choice due to the restriction. You cannot refute that.

  2. Are you trying to imply that you do not have to pay for the EA? Wow din’t know the EA could actually be obtained for free.

  3. Did you even read? Was my english so difficult to understand? When have I ever said that we had no choice in the matter? I acknowledged that there is a choice, the main issue was that we were forced to make a choice. Don’t put words into my mouth.

  1. Quitting and transferring, I mentioned one more which is creating another team on Verena. (losing you’re 1 month headstart as a result, nice EA mate)

  2. You yourself acknowledge that population deflation is NOT the best solution. Do you know why that is a horrible solution in the first place? It’s the fact that it’s at the expense of us the players, the consumer of their product.

  1. Yea that’s what I said, increasing server capacity is the best solution. Whether or not it is easy is another question altogether.

  2. You don’t know what I am thinking so don’t assume. All I did was state that it was the best solution as a matter of fact. This is something they have to address in the future either ways.

  3. Yes I agree there is obviously some reason they are unable to just increase the capacity and fix this problem altogether. When did I ever say there wasn’t?

  4. Yep IMC has always stated that new servers would be created as old ones fill up. Therein lies a problem. Why din’t they create a new SEA server earlier before it got overpopulated. I mean they said they would created new servers as old ones filled up. Even you acknowledge it. They have both the Steam sales data AS WELL AS the amount of people transferring from the other 3 servers. They should have been well aware that the server will be overloaded soon. So why din’t they create a new one for SEA? Don’t say they couldn’t, when they just created the new SA server after the transfers. They should’ve addressed this SEA server overloading problem as a priority since it affects gameplay for the players. Their actions seem to imply that it might be more than just an overloading problem but that isn’t the issue.

Until you got sidetracked that resulted in that conversation above. And now also trying to pick a fight again. I would want to just call it quits right here but its you’re choice now.

Look at this crybaby crying like a little crybaby. Why you crying little baby?

agree. but any idea how to settle this problem not only expecting from the IMC because they are very busy counting the dollars $$$$$$$$$ we paid them.

I live in the same place city as the SA server and I play with 200-300 ping…

O prefer to be in the server Orsha with 150 ping back… :frowning:

Man I sure hope some of the people arguing about having to make choices don’t go outside. Because there are WAY harder choices to make then to play a game or not.