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Why Sadhu is not the priority on IMC's class balance?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Ive spent 700+ hours on this game and been spending 4/5 of the time on Sadhu. Made 4 sadhus in total since CBT to test out different paths. The class is overall weak, underplayed, buggy and a shame to the red class icon.

Im seeing other classes been buffed here and there and most of them were the classes that people play. Theres a reason why this class is underplayed, it needs some urgent balancing.

I dont get it why this class is not their main priority to fix. Id be happy if its just “Fixing Sadhu is already in the plans, we’ll get it out when its done.”

;/

Regardless, here is my Sadhu wishlist which ive posted in another thread:

Bugs:
Seriously… you dont even buff the class and dont fix the bug either?

  • OoB is stuck in the animation and cant move (not the OoB delay)
  • Possession is casted but nothing is there.
  • Graphics glitches

OoB:
My favorite skill.

  • Increase its attack speed, damage OR a balance of both
  • Make OoB AA counts as 3 hits?
  • Completely remove hidden buffs (you missed out on Divine Stigma).
  • Please remove the damn delay after each OoB attack
  • PLEASE increase the hitbox for the skill. Even dagger has better hitbox.

ABE:
I dont use it much.

  • Remove casting delay
  • Buff damage. Atm for the CD, is not worth the skill unless there are huge pack of mobs

Possession:
My favorite skill when out of OoB. Very useful in grinding and dungeon parties to kill trash mobs since OoB is not used much.

  • Getting interrupted while channeling? Im actually fine with that because the skill is pretty strong and people pretty much die once they get caught up in it.
  • PLEASE make casting time faster.

Vidshitta:
Or whatever the name is lol.

  • Make confusion works in PvP?

Transmit Prana:
Just delete this skill already or…

  • Make it work with OoB
  • Design an entirely new skill

Thats all i have on top of my head atm. Will edit this later if i have more.

#2

ok 2 simple questions:

1; why -should- it be the priority? it obviously plays well enough for you to keep returning to it. meanwhile “affects the most people” = “highest priority”.

2; when -nothing- is getting serious balance patching, why would this class be any different? sure, tweaks here and there, but -nobody- has gotten a serious patch for balance yet.

#3

Just switch to a wizard class for now.

Balance changes will still take forever.

#4

move this to gameplay and bug report so you could hopelly get a response at least

#5

Because this game has a crap ton of classes and these things take time.

#6

I play alot because i like the gameplay and unique feel of the class. Thats all theres to it. OP class is not always the reason why you play the class.

“affects the most people” = “highest priority”.

Statement above is true. But what im implying is that if there are many people playing the class, that means the class is mostly working as intended. So at this stage, there is no need make further fixes yet. Better focus on other classes that needed the most. Ill give you an example:

Class A - works 95% of the time
Class B - works 90% of the time
Class C - works 85% of the time
Class D - works 30% of the time

Its obvious that Class D needs some urgent work right? Get them up to par with other classes and proceed with any other fixes needed with other classes. If you just keep fixing the class that most people play… might as well delete the unplayed class already lol.

Tweaks here and there? Yeah i was hoping at least that but we havent got any ;/
If you actually played Sadhu extensively, you will know why im saying this and how bad the class is.

ok 1 simple question:

1; have you played the class?

#7

Yeah true. I was hoping that they should start with little fixes, at least bugs. Not hoping for a class overhaul within a week. It saddens me when every KR patchnote releases, theres not even a single line mentioning about Sadhu when the class needs to be buffed the most out of other classes that gotten buffs/fixes.

#8

R7 Has 25 classes to balances.
R6 has 25 as well (Sadhu C3 fits into here)
R5 also has 25 classes to balance (sadhu C2 fits here)
R4 has 24 classes to balance (Sadhu C1 is here)
R3 has 20 classes to balance
R2 has 12 classes to balance
R1 has 4.

It should be very obvious that there is a lot of balance concerns just looking at that, and this is without considering the combinations of classes you can do to reach a certain rank, so how those combinations are balanced out.
Or even taking previous rank classes at later ranks (which is a straight impossible balance consideration).

There is over 100 class considerations right now and they’re working on R8 in the background, it’s easy to understand how they haven’t reached Sadhu yet.

#9

Im well aware that there ALOT of balance concerns due to the number of classes available.

Thats why im saying that they should prioritize which one needed the most first. Not going through in an order like A -> B -> C -> D -> E -> F when E needs to be fixed the most.

#10

That can be fairly subjective.
Especially again with these many classes and different ways of tackling balance.
With numerous people saying “my class is bad, balance” your metric isn’t necessarily consistent, they’re going to do it piece meal and for the most case they prioritize the low level classes and high level classes (particularly in pvp).
They likely already have some internal system, I’m sure by now you realize the pettyness of saying “why hasn’t my turn come before them”.

#11

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#12

What about Hunter? The apex of unreliability

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#13

yeah, but we still want to at least see a dev say something about sadhu. they have been 100% silent about this class, its like they didnt even test it after they (over)nerfed it

#14

nope, i don’t like the -idea- of it at all. but that’s irrelevant to my statements.
the classes that have been getting the tiny tweaks (and i do mean tiny) are the ones that everyone plays.
the “serious” balance patching hasn’t even started yet, and isn’t going to until they’re farther along with keeping the server stable.

this suggests to me that the Devs consider it to be “working as intended” probably.
that is, -they- don’t consider it broken, because they aren’t fixing it.

have you considered the possibility that maybe “you’re doing it wrong” ?
(again, i haven’t played, so idk. but everything i’ve heard about Sadhu -previously- is that it’s really strong in certain areas.)

put the drugs down mate. the game hasn’t been out for even A SINGLE year.

#15

Don’t make such assumptions if you haven’t even played the class. The class is just way underpowered and VERY buggy atm. The only good skill it has is Possession, and even this has some drawbacks.

I wish they buffed OOB to have at least decent damage and fixed the position bug when using ABE, so it can be playable.

#16

yeah now im sadhu c2 and i only use possession and hexiggy (whice does more dmg than oob)

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#18

guys, tzxazreal is just a keyboard warrior. he likes his battles. stop feeding it to him

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#19

almost as if they haven’t even -started- working on balance in iTOS… because they’re still working on making the game work properly.

can’t even spell my name right, and it’s right there in front of you.
besides, “Levun”, -everyone- here is just a keyboard warrior.

but it’s more effective to fight your keyboardwars based on fact and extrapolations from those facts, instead of “i wish” or “dammit fix this already or else”

#20

Like what @tzxazrael said, frequent fixes/tweaks are being done mostly on the popular classes.

Like with any other products/services, it’s a given that a company should prioritize on delivering what the majority of their customers need.

But this doesn’t mean the unpopular classes won’t get their “fixes”. They will, eventually.