Can we all push this change to GM’s please?
@STAFF_John @STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Amy
It will make TBL much less frustrating for non-cleric cl@sses
Yeah, never said its good to not have a cleric in the team 
But a team with a good CC build has the same chance to win, when not even slightly higher then the team with a cleric.
I think the 2 biggest factors in every team are CC and heal, and even then it kind of depends what kind of Cleric build.
Now I got this picture in my head of GMs handing out Clerics oO
"Oh you dont have one? here you can have this cleric puppy…"
I’m just a tool… 
Atoni the fabulous, who sets a Meteor skillgem into a Crossbow. No kidding.
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clerics arent op, its the most balanced out f all the classes along with sword
archer 1 shots
wizard keeps you cc the whole game
all cleric does is provide heals and invul, all of clerics dps is from melee range aside from bokor, roll a cleric, even if you do play a build with a bunch of immuntities you will still die a lot.
Well, if you play Dragonica back in the day, there are only extreme kinds of builds exist. The one that stuns lock you to death, the ones that can heal indefinitely, and the ones that dodge everything.
Past some first few ranks, damage becomes irrelevant in PvP, the ones who win is the ones who land the first stun chain.
I can envision TOS suffering from the same problem. Wizards can stun lock, clerics can heal, and clerics can basically dodge all CC. So yeah, it is obvious that only wizards and clerics are on top of TBL. We lack the dodge aspect since here magic don’t miss
We need premade Queue for TBL.
And why do TBL? Because is the only surce of PVP!
Gvg = 1 fps.
Open World Gvg = no rewards and neutral thing.
The problem about tbl is the time on fedimian server.
then go to the fedi-tbl-times thread, and get your times !
they will fix it
@Kaylee as a Kino 3 myself and having played against you plenty of time and against lot of others Clerics, kinda hard but I can manage to win you, but actually there are other specific PvP build like those being diev 3 - oracle - kabba which are literally impossible to play against.
Add another cleric who provides another Ausrine or a PD, my char is completely useless.
@Seiryuu come on sei, when I told you months ago that I was the unluckiest man alive I wasn’t lying, but this thread is about people who don’t give a ■■■■ and actually they even hesitate and are proud of that =_=
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Never seen Atoni but Moo is my nemesis - sometimes i think he does it on purpose to fck up his own team rank ;p
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I can confirm what Chrno says.
Against theses builds, I have no choice but to wait for their skills to go CD, hope my team will stay alive in the meantime and that they kill the players fast if I somehow manage to CC them.
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@neith720
i play a wugushi, so pd/oracle makes me almost useless. still, even matches where 1 side has NO cleric and other side has 4 clerics are win-able.
an invulnerable psychokino is quite a pain in tbl, too :).
Atoni is this awesoe fletcher that cant do ■■■■ and even if he manages to actually be not afk he is useless 
@neith720 Yeah but it all comes back to matchmaking. Its not like Cleric is too strong its just about matchmaking is a joke.
@Noir_Ben I really dont know why you complain… its like my happy dance moment everytime I see your face when we are in opposite teams… dont take that away from me
I agree on getting rid of daily arena points and introducing rating-based system as well.
But then the swordies will ultimately cease to exist.
I’m actually thinking about this horrible game again, dammit -- I’ve finished with Albion for now (know my build for release, wipe incoming) and bored again --
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Do you mean Diev-> Oracle-> Kabblist or dose anyone actually put more than one circle in oracle?
I will say time issue every single place that I can find.
Sue me.
Just separate the que for random and premade queues to be fair.