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Why is Highlander C3 + Corsair C2+ being ignored so much?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

This build is hitting like a truck at R7, for bosses. I’m not sure if it keeps doing the same at R8 with high blessed weapons, but I think they are.

I’m running this build right now, full STR:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11222888d.23354552.32435a657a8a95.1e517f8a95.25314455

Basically, the build has a lot of overheats that do ridiculous amount of hits (and so Concentrate/Blessing/element procs) and their cooldown mix really well.

Why is it being ignored? Is it because people just go Doppel/Dragoon instead?

Discuss.

#2

It hasnt been ignored, fact is, most builds now require high investment, and players are looking for “cheap meta builds” to do their chores aka saalus/290s. It’s ridiculous the amount of knockdown from bosses on Saalus (Royal M. and Canyon), trying to do combos with some classes is kinda hard if pain barrier is on cooldown.

Edit: Should replace 290dg for whatever dungeon people are doing for money, 170dg fits better.

#3

what skills can shinobi copy from corsair?

#4

They do need investment? At R7 I’m using a blue 220 sword (I don’t even know the name, I just got whatever was cheaper from AH) and a 120 Hunting Grounds Dagger. My pistol is the cheapest as well. I’m topping DPS basically every time in whatever boss I do so far, even in the ones that spam knockdowns. Maybe it’s something that changes drastically at R8 content.

And well, yeah. I noticed this issue without Pain Barrier at higher levels. This is truly bad for Swordsman in general. R3+ classes can at least have Swordsman C2 with no big losses since Peltasta isn’t really needed for DPS and Highlander C1 is really awful. But, if you manage to pull it, you do ridiculous amounts of DPS. It has both burst and sustained DPS capabilities, although it’s basically single target. I guess with the Boss reworks IMC talked about, we may be able to use those builds without getting bouncing around endlessly.

None. I think it’s a bad choice with Crown and Moulinet alone, but I don’t know what other classes I should get. Maybe Swordsman 2 is a better pick at R8 for Pain Barrier, Gungho and Concentrate.

#5

your build would do much better damage if you would take SW3 for double slash., take its attributes and you’ll see what i mean. also bunshins are affected by gungho which benefits from high STR builds. im not quite sure if concentrate also buffs bunshin’s damage but with SW3 inline, make sure to take PB15 its the best bonus you could get from SW3 right now. you might also want to consider taking barb1 for cleave

just so you know corsair class is the only one being ignored atm because there’s little to no benefit from corsair when it comes to PVE.

people who take corsair usually take the class for pillaging and hook., other than that corsair is nothing but a support to archers because of JR 15 giving a huge boost to missle attacks.

HL3 has always been part of the meta because of skull swing which gives 40s of armor break before, but it was recently nerfed to 3s post-update so people might have ditched c3 and just take c2 for skyliner. 15s cooldown with 5 overheats? g g

#6

Well, I don’t really want to make use of Shinobi yet. It was just a filler class and a bad pick, in that case. I agree that Swo3Hig3 is better for Shinobi.

B-B-But all of Corsair skills have insane scaling? Maybe not as much as Doppel because… Doppel. Even Pistol Shot is good right now.

And yep, I agree with Highlander C3 not being too strong. However, you can get all of the core skills to the max level so they have a pretty decent scale. Moulinet, Skyliner, Cross-Cut, Vertical Slash and Skull Swing all do high damage.

I think the problem may be Doppel itself. Dragoon is not ditching so much damage as before, but Doppel is, at least if you take into consideration the other classes.

#7

the scaling maybe an eye candy but until r9 classes are previewed, people will continue to ditch corsair due to it locking you to dual wielding. especially when you take c3 for pistol, imagine when r9 is revealed and none of them has synergy to sword/spear&gun you’ll of course be forced to take lower classes which is meh,

#8

Well, yeah. That’s a big issue. If it’s a new Doppel class I’ll quit once for all.

#9

Doppel and Fencer hit c3 at r8, its not impossible that next swordie classes will be Matador and some other 2h sword class, or just like barbarian, a class that can use any weapon.(Luchador?)

Besides, i think Doppel even at rank1 has its own profits nomatter what the build, Cyclone, DoV and DPE has its own merits.

#10

don’t get me wrong but without an op skillset im never gonna be interested on taking that luchador class it just ruins the name “swordsman” itself. i cant imagine myself playing swordsman with a similar skillset that of zangief in street fighter, damn such an eyesore lol.

on the other hand matador is the class expected to be the r9 class for fencers.
there are rumors that centurion might also become an r9 class well no one knows other than imc devs,. i just hope they include another reset event when r9 comes. im pretty damn sure lots of people with no synergy to their respective classes will all whine again just like before.