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Why don't we pick Cleric3 with the Chaplain build?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

I intend to play a classic Chaplain build (PvE only) and I struggled to choose a 7th circle class
While I was thinking that Krivis was the best choice because of Daino, I thought about the third Cleric circle:

If you think of it, you gain a ton of healing potential because of the 15+10(Divine might) Heal
Plus every skills you and your team have are now +10. Correct me if I’m wrong but for me +10 is huge.

Don’t you think it’s the best choice for PvE?

#2

Well it’s +1 but applied to 10 skill usages.

But yes the build is fine for pve, but you don’t really need that much healing so most people pick up different classes after cleric c2 to be more efficient.

#3

Oh, so 10/10 Divine might gives a +1 for the next ten skills you cast after casting DM?
Well, it changes everything. Krivis1 seems so better than C3 then.

#4

Sorry but you are wrong, is not +10, is ten times +1 (for each use of skill after casting divine might) :stuck_out_tongue:
In my opinion u have enough with cleric C2. You get 10 healing tiles x2 because the ability has overheat (so you can cast it 2 times in a row) and also, one of the main reasons to take C2 is the safety zone attribute (that gives you 20 more hit duration).

The diferences between C2 and C3 are too little, i would prefer to choose another class :smile_cat:

#5

Ay, thank you for the tip. (;
I should go K1 instead I guess

#6

Hi!
I count the possible simultaneous buffs you may gain because of that build… There are 11 possible buffs that can be used simultaneously…

Since we only have a limit of 5 buffs (now 7 as updated on kTOS + 1 per class bonus = 8 buffs count), how are you going to use those them all?
Addition to that is other class types has their own self buffs to cast.

Isn’t it a must for every full support build to take atleast take Krivis c1 for Dainos?
Besides, Krivis has Zalcai (critical attack) which benefits swordsman and archer type…

What you think?

#7

other class have buff too (archer/thau/chrono/…)

#8

Sounds a really good idea. (;

How do you think I should build my character? Spr instead of Int because of Zalcai? Then switch cure to 1/5 and put 2/5 to deprotected zone to scale with Spr?

Edit: Something like that?

#9

I think Kivris only is a must if u are planning to do a lot of PVP and your build/party has a lot of buffs, and that is because of the existence of daino scrolls (that only can be used in PVE) and the fact that u have a max of 8 buffs and a lot of your buffs dont have 100% up time.

#10

I have pretty much the same interrogation as you. I don’t know what to pick at R7, mostly because PD seems popular (not only for chaplain builds), no need for duplication.

From what I read, only one rank of Krivis is kinda useless. The only thing you really need is Daino which can be obtained through scrolls.

I might still go for Cleric C3 depending on R8, we still have some time before reaching R7 anyway :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#11

Basically, to know which class rank to take, you must know what one or two classes you would like to highlight…
It means other rank class is just meant to support them (or they help one another)…

There are lots of possible builds in this game… (like monk, sadhu, bokor, druid and plague doctor — other classes are almost same build as they are)

So I suggest you focus on the one thing you want to do most…

As for TS, he is focusing his build on being a full support.
For sure you and your party mate will lack in buffs number, taking a scroll or another support is a mess…
If you meant to be as a whole package support, your build must be independent on its own.

I’ve watched many videos regarding this and I’ve seen how good each build has… they have weaknesses and strengths, so just choose yours…

So now if I’ll read your latest class build making a scenario like this:


“If I’m a Dragoon and you are my support hmm…”

– 1. You give me a pretty decent damage (monstrance + aspersion + sacrament + zalcai + Aspergillum + Last Rites)
– 2. You give me a high survivality (Heal 10 + Mass Heal 10 + Stone Skin “1”??? + aspersion + safety zone)
– 3. You added Dainos in your skill (my self buffs plus all your buffs = awesome! you don’t suppress my own build)

I believe those classes are pretty much the best support class in cleric branch so we have no problem with it…

The only thing that is left are:

  1. Did you know that Blessing and Sacrament has an issue of giving flat base damage (it means in level 200+, the additional damage they give seems too small or does not matter at all)
  2. You are full support… you have no offensive skills (except for heal and zaibas), you must have a friend to accompany you er?
  3. There are some buffs that are too low in level, wouldn’t it be useless when we are 250+? Are you planning to use reset skill scroll?
  4. Also, what is your stats build for this? hmm… (be reminded that depending on your stats will this build become stronger or weaker… Int = high heal, Spr = stronger buffs, Con = you don’t die easily)
#12

cuz PD op
//20charrrrrrr

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#13

I don’t know if the beginning of your post was adressed to me or not. I now realise that my build isn’t obvious as non stated in my post, but I am planning to go chaplain as well.
Thanks for letting me know that lots of possible builds existed in this game anyway …

As support/healer, by focusing on the one thing I want to do the most, I should get PD. But PD is really popular, and a lot of other build non healer still works with PD, which is why I said I might still go for Cleric C3 depending on R8 to avoid duplication in guild roaster. People are currently talking about overheal with heal lvl15 (which makes sense), but we don’t really know what’s coming, that’s why I keep it as an option.

@Portishead
One rank of Krivis is not a good idea for your build, IMO. You could use this rank for something else.
Maxing Aspersion isn’t necessary (def scales badly IG), Stone Skin would be more useful for physical dmg prevention.
You should put one point earlier in Monstrance, you will use it mostly for the buff to dex depending on your party members.

In any case, going support healer generally means tedious soloplay (more or less easy depending on your gear and stat distri), but no surprise that a healer can’t hit as hard as a dps.

#14

Hey, thanks a lot for your answer. I’ll try to be more precise in order to make you understand my whole approach.

  1. I do, but these abilities look like “core” to the overall character design. But I didn’t maxed them out for that purpose (flat damage), I’d rather max Aspertion that scales with spirit. Do you think I put too much points into theses abilities? Don’t forget that Last Rite scales on Sacrement level for exemple.
  2. I plan to play an auto-attack Chaplain, so 80% (or even more) will come from Bless, Sacrement, Aspertion, Aspergillum and Last Rites. I heard it’s enough to get to high level by playing on my own
  3. Well, I genuinly don’t know. I never played this game and I based my build according of what I saw and read, but I have no idea about what’s 250+lvl looks like. What would you do if you were me?
  4. With the last one I linked to you I think Spr is better. I refered to the “Preliminary beginners” topic to build it. It says 1point in stoneskin is enough if you build Spr, 2 points in deprotected because at higher lvl this skill doesn’t scale enough, and I guessed the remaining skills by myself, maxing out every Spr skills.
    I think to attribute stats like 2spr+1 int, then 2spr+1 con + ect…
    Would it be better to build Int instead and toss the lowest buffs/debuffs? Something like that:

Edit: After reading Panplemousse here’s my last build in date:


Ps: I kind of like the idea of going Krivis. Stacking buff and having one more seems really good for PvE

#15

Your build mate =)

Just my opinion, I would put a bit more point in blessing (no more than lvl10) simply to add strike count and avoid buff-time in my skill rotation, but that’s because I’m lazy ^^

Otherwise, I think I do not have enough experience to see any other issue (I can really say “Your build is good”, because I could be wrong)

Have fun fellow priest !

#16

Ay, thanks for the feedback. (;
Just one thing, which one do you think it’s better? Int or Spr one?

#17

Hard to tell honestly. As you want to play mostly solo, I would say INT, just to increase your dmg output.

But again, I haven’t play enough cleric/priest to be sure.

#18

I prefer Cleric 1 or 2 and then PD.
This way I will have 3 recovery spells: Heal (23s Cool down), Mass Heal (30s) and Healing Factor (45s). 3 Spells mean I can go easy on Cool down management. I can use 2 healing and still have 1 more left for emergency.

#19

Saw this video in another thread, and felt it might be relevant to you. :slight_smile:
At any rate it’s a Cleric > Priest3 > Chaplain > Krivis > PD build that seems to focus on INT. Seems pretty naisu to me. js

#20

Hey, thanks for the link. Seems really effective. (;