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Why are the Spears so much better than the swords? especially the 2H Swords?
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Well im unsure 1 is better than the other. as one favors slashing damage and the other stabbing/piercing
Because… IMC.
You are really ignorant thinking that imc is the cause of this… what da fack…
I hope you realize that IMC created this game.
So, why we can’t pierce or stab with swords?
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Seriously 2 hand built need ktos patch
No cd skyline and cleave buff will hel alot for 2 hander
And crossguard should improve slash dmage not pierce for godsake
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spear lunge
this skill makes every sword build bad.
not to mention spear has +xx damage to medium and large on every spears
I wonder how much increases in damage does fencer lunge gives to slash ?
and that coquille to pierce.
do they increases as much damage as spear lunge ?
i mean i suppose thats why they are giving slash-50% debuff to cleave sometime soon, assuming we get similiar patches? with it i can definetly see the competitiveness of a 2h sword to the spear and atm,
There’s alot more spear has going for it than Swords from what i’ve seen. Build synergy and natural bonuses being the biggest.
-Far more Spear exclusive skills then there are Two Handed Sword or One Handed Sword exclusive skills.
-Spear exclusive skills are almost all more useful or more powerful than their Sword counterparts.
-The only requirement to use a spear is getting one of the 3 current best classes in the swordsman tree. Peltasta also synergizes better with spear classes than any of the others in most cases.
-Property advantages: Spears have better property weaknesses. Pierce’s weakness against cloth enemies is countered by almost all cloth enemies being inhenrently weak to physical attacks. With Plate being neutral to pierce and leather enemies being weak to it. While Swords have inhenrently bad damage attributes that strengthen the killing of already soft targets.
-Property Advantages 2: The kits that are given to spear exclusive characters cover EVERYTHING in the game. While Sword exclusive skills cover ONLY slash attributing. Making Spears extremely versatile as opposed to Swords sticking to an already bad attributing. That and most striking abilities that a Two Hand could use, can be used with a spear.
-Finestra gives AoE Ratio. Nuff said there.
-Most spear exclusive skills are multihit.
-Dragoon/Hoplite/Cata are the best classes in swordsman tree. I know i’m repeating myself here, but there’s a reason why Pelt> into any varient of Hoplite/Cata/Dragoon work so well late game. Their skills are almost essential to any build in one form or another.
-I’d say that two handed spears have a disadvantage in defense, but then I laughed as nobody wants to use Highlander, or stick 10 ~ 15 points of crossguard into a build.
-Every spear class but Hoplite has amazing attributes for Spears. Hoplite has Finestra though.
-You have to pick Highlander for a somewhat broken +50% crit damage passive.
So yeah, there are probably more reasons, but i’m depressed enough as is. If you ever see a person say swordsmen are fine and they play a spear main. Just think about the immense advantage they have over non-spear weilding units. Then laugh, and then cry so that they ask you why your crying.
Edit: Oh right. Forgot about modifiers. There are no Slash attack modifiers in the game currently. I’m honestly glad Highlander has pierce damage increases though. It actually helps the class more so than if they’d gave it slash damage. Actually rounds it out, but requires a spear centric class to use it.
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ive noticed alot of these perks to the spear class… every spear comes with an extensive set of bonuses.
So the P.Atk boosts youd get from Barbarian, and combos of Zornhau to Zucken, Stun to Cleave dont compete at all with the kit of a hoplite to dragoon?
Are you saying that you can’t use any Barbarian skill in combination with a spear? There’s nothing stopping a spear build from having those same boost if they’re willing to wait ages to use their spear.
Zornhau to Zucken has terrific damage, but they are 2 out of 3 exceptions for terrific damage on two handed sword exclusive skills that need need to be prioritized for and don’t necessarily make up for the versatility of spears. In sheer damage, Zornhau to Zucken with Barbarian spamming skills, alongside DoV and other skills of a build may very well outdamage a Hoplite -> Dragoons skills. However, that’s one build that has to combat with several different spear complimented variants in not just damage, but utility. That’s more of why I believe spears are better for now. Simply because of effective versatility as opposed to pure strength. I admit though, this is simply my opinion on the matter.
im not sure what yo umean when you say versatile then. like from what i can tell, they both just deal damage.