I don’t really know who are so selfish that choose to bring the game down and spoil the fun for them and for everyone else, just because they are lazy and can’t get some silver.
They weren’t spending so much time with bot development if wasn’t profitable for them, someone must be buying this sht.
PS: By my research, there are 20~50% more bots on Klaipeda than Orsha, I dunno about other servers, but I really think that Klaipeda has more buyers than the others.
that might have to do with the population spreads on the servers. if its accurate that is
Whoever buys from gold sellers and gets scammed clearly deserves it.
My theory is that Klaipeda has more users that work with USD, the main currency used by gold sellers, since the other servers has SA/SEA/EU players and they use different currency, the Silver per $ isn’t worth for them.
But that’s beside the point, why the hell someone buy that sht!? Probable they are cloning your card and your documents… And why the hell you want to be rich in a dead game? I prefer to be poor on a lasting mmo than richest man alive on a empty one.
This is an amusing topic in my opinion.
First off, let’s all agree, people have or will be buying from gold sellers in this game. If they weren’t, then gold sellers would not be trying to spam their services (why advertise somewhere where you know nobody will buy?).
Okay now that we’ve gotten that out of the way, what is the mentality of someone who would buy gold?
Well really, you just need to ask yourself this…
Let’s say that you want to use some real money to buy silver. What’s the difference between buying tokens from imc to sell vs. buying silver straight up from some RMT outfit?
Not everyone feels loyal to imc, so if you were a player who didn’t care much about imc and wanted silver/power, would you go for expensive silver or cheap silver?
If you’re spending $18 to sell a token, you’re already limited to the weird market limit system which will place minimum and maximum caps on how much silver you’ll get. And because using money to obtain silver is already legitimized in this scheme, it’s not a huge jump in my opinion to just buying silver from a cheaper source.
I think people buy or will buy silver in this game, because the game systems and developers have already legitimized the idea. And once the idea is legitimized then it’s just a question of getting the most bang for your buck…
But that’s just my two cents.
EDIT: I am absolutely not saying this is okay and I condemn anyone who does this as it ruins the game economy (or whatever is left of it). I’m just saying that within the economic monetization system that imc has set up for this game, they have basically set up a weird double standard where real money = silver, but only if you buy from imc.
EDIT2: What about other mmos where there is not such a direct comparison between buying tokens and buying silver straight up? I would argue people buy gold in those situations to get past tedious or non-fun aspects of the game in order to get to the “good parts” where they can feel powerful or have an “awesome” character. What kinds of tedious parts? Maybe having to wait for long periods to grind monsters, maybe being unable to attain that item that they want. Etc… essentially when the level of frustration and desire outpace the amount of fun being had. I personally feel a lot of these underlying issues can be addressed with better gameplay. But of course there will also always be people who want the easy way to winning, or want to satisfy their virtual ego of having the ‘best’, so there’s that too.
you know they take middle men payments like paypal aka they cant get your info.
rofl, well here you go, I guess I’m not the only one who thought things were kind of ridiculous:
EDIT: So one possible answer seems to be F2P players will be buying silver 
I’ve played plenty of MMO’s where I’ve known top players to buy gold because they didn’t want to farm for their stuff. People spend over thousands of dollars on gold buying.
Buying gold is easier for players to not invest much time or effort into obtaining equipment.
There will always be these kinds of people around, unfortunately. As much as I dislike it, honestly… I don’t really see how to rid of the problem. It’s like pirating video games. You cannot stop it, only make it somewhat harder for people to pirate games.
If people have money, they will use their money. Regardless of what kind of system IMC implements. An example is just straight up sending $100 to someone’s paypal for a rare drop. No silver involved, IMC will never catch them.
The question should be how come they get so much silver in this short amount of time.
The thing about most gold selling services is well… they’re not scams, not at all. They really will keep their end of the deal in most cases. What’s one thing pushing people to buy money? Look at the rates the gold bots are charging. Now let’s look at the average cost for a token.
Instead of buying a token, needing to buy that $30 Steam Founder pack, they can buy about $10 worth of silver off a gold selling site and then buy the token off a user for half the cost. Oh look, trade wall problem solved.
A big issue giving these gold sellers business is the fact there is a pay wall, white knights can argue all they want about how it hurts them but it also attracts people who normally wouldn’t consider their business to consider and buy from them. If no one bought from the gold selling sites their prices would plummet further, they’ve been staying pretty steady at this point meaning they have found the price they can sell at.
If players could freaking trade we could help each other out as well as set a standard for what could go. Am I suggesting to make silver tradable? HELL NO, but what if you see someone get that 3-4 star weapon YOU need and have been farming hours trying to get… You have their weapon they want too, can you do anything? It’s outrageous.
Source: Having actually known someone who purchased an in-game currency in another game through these means years ago.
Disclaimer: DO NOT BUY FROM GOLD SELLING SITES PLEASE NOT ONLY WILL IT FAIL TO HELP ANYTHING IT WILL JUST FURTHER PROMOTE THE PAY WALL. EVEN IF YOU GET THE TOKEN FOR CHEAP(and somehow don’t get caught) DOESN’T MEAN IMC ISN’T BEING TOLD THAT THE TRADE RESTRICTION IS GREAT
They keep dissing those “F2P plebs” but it’s those “plebs” who are going to resort to RMT because imc wasn’t being reasonable or realistic with its ‘subscription’ costs… heck, if a F2P player went via RMT they could probably get enough silver to buy tokens at a lower price.
A quick check shows you could buy 500k silver for less than an imc token subscription… like… wtf???
DISCLAIMER: Don’t actually go do this please, you’ll ruin the game.
this is totally out of control. i have absolutely no respect for the people who develop these botting programs, those who run them and even less for those who buy silver from the sellers. it doesnt matter how poor you are in real life, having this as your job is not an option. you’re simply making money by ruining the fun and entertainment of thousands of people like some kind of criminal. find a job you could actually feel proud on yourself doing, not this ‘leeching of another man’s work’ kind of thing.
also, as much it would impact the game… at this point i would be glad for IMC to completely take out the market place and trading aspect of the game.
Do you guys even have proof to back these claims? Proof, large numbers of people are buying RMT silver in this game specifically.
Actually it looks like they aren’t poor at all and are actually gaining profit from it. I’m not sure if some are even legit or not, but having a .com website requires them to pay for domain registration fees.
They don’t really care what people think of them so the only way to keep them off is to have the publisher do something about it.
Edit:
Oh and those who develop the bot programs are a different thing altogether. If this is like RO, then the botting programs for this game may be open source and free to use. Recognition is enough for these folks.
I can throw the same back at you, do you have proof that people aren’t buying from them? It costs a lot to maintain a website so the fact the website is still open says something. Not to mention having the bots running and gathering the product they’re selling also says something as that’s resources they could be using elsewhere.
Yeah… sadly, it’s getting pretty trivial these days… you could probably whip up something even fairly sophisticated with OpenCV, Python bindings, and Scikit-learn…
Given the youth of the game, I doubt that there is any free or free bot program…
Theses should be either private or paying.
As a dev myself, I understand how other devs can be very passionate up to the point that they make stuff like these during their free time. The feeling of accomplishing something hundreds or thousands will use outweighs any insult that we throw against them, to be honest. Of course I don’t condone it. I’m just speaking from a dev’s POV. 
It’s more of a question, are these RMTers spamming just to get their word out there where they specifically exist since its been a week since release, rather than tons of people are buying from them.
Alright, sorry then… My bad. The truth is we really have no proof backing it up other then research and experience with said services. My father for example has built websites, sold them and he has told me plenty of times that if the website doesn’t pay for itself, it’s a lost investment. Namely cause web hosting can be expensive and the .com extension at the end of their sites says it’s paid hosting. Also their prices have stayed locked in place at this point, meaning… they found a price people are buying from them. If they didn’t their desperation would continue to show.
Before it was obvious they weren’t getting business as they were charging $10 per 100,000 silver and it kept going down, now it’s been the same roughly $3-5 range of the bots and has stuck.