Which of these 2 is better.
swordie-hl3-barb1-dopple3
or
swordie2-barb3-dopple3
By better I mean overall in terms of constant and burst dps.
Any particular reasons why?
@Scyris because you can push your skyliner to 400k+ with one skyliner ( 2x 200k+ ) and i think you have overall more aoe and bossing dmg ( more burst and more constant dps )
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looks good ā¦ go for it when you like doppel and hl 
Now I am just worried about it getting nerfed right after I make one, its the type of luck I have.
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this is the thing with all builds ā¦ not only meta builds 
look at sorcerer they got nerfed but they where crap before too
Ofc HL3. Barb3 sux. And full str builds for doppel - sux too .
Oh yeah sure.
Its so useless to boost your Doppel skills even more with Warcry.
And getting 50 more crit with cleave.
This is what Iām using https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.233555.355a657a8a95.b5.1f416a768691a1 you can put extra points into redel or sturtz, redel scales better but sturtz has 2 overheat.
that happens with all FotM builds. People who play Diablo 3 knows the feelingā¦every single season xD
lol that 40cons
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doppel doesnāt need con
I meant more the skill allotments, for stats I am prob going all str.
im kinda feeling it too but idk how and in what way they would, since theyāve adjusted DoV already.
tbh i really like how DoV works now. itās just like an upgraded gungho.i really hated the idea of stacking it by getting hit which made me spend some time to farm for some lapasape mushies. (still have 78pcs in my inventory just incase they choose to revert it back lol!)i miss the 150% atk & aspd increase though.
if anything i hope they make doppel skills scale with dex (faster animation speed) it might sound op but nope since skills are still gated by CDs. this way doppel would really live up to be the shredder in pve., idk in pvp since i really think doppels are luckluster in this field.
Its time to bash a bit around.
Doppel dont need Full str either.
Serious whats wrong with tos players?
Find a good balance in your stats there is no bonus anymore for stacking only 1 stat.
Max str are 30% from the dmg 70% are EQ.
Get some dex for Block pen/better Skyline spam.
Look at the World boss rework i guess some con could help for the higher tier bosses.
Now to the Hl3 vs Barb 3 part.
Hl3 gives you only skyliner+crosscutā¦if you play with controller you dont even have space for it.
Armor break is useless now.
Moulinet is lackluster since you will use Zucken if the enemy is in āShockā-Status.
What gives you Barb 3?
Another goodfiller with CC Seism.
A buff that will boost you dps way more then Skyliner Warcry in et with huge monster masses.
And then you get the wild attribute instead of +50 crit you get +100crit after Cleave.
Even Sw3 can be better offensive.
And you have PB 15 and stunlock with cyclone.
The only thing that you obtain from highlander is a filler that you dont need very often.
Even less if you dont have pb 15 so you have to dodge all the knockbacksā¦
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The truth is that you dont like High3-Doppel3 
adviceā¦ take the advice you get and make a judgment call for yourselfā¦ 
another adviceā¦ right now if your making a doppelā¦ think of it as making it for earth tower dpsā¦
donāt think about it as metaā¦ think that you need the doppel to dps in ET so you can have great gear in the end for your dop and all other characters you makeā¦
at least with this mind set if doppel got nerfedā¦ you wont take to much of a blow in your heartā¦ 
so just remember you making a doppel for ETā¦ so it wont hurt you in the end if they patched and nerfed doppel
Someone didnāt read.
You can invest in more or less Con if you want, it wonāt lower your damage much if you want more health and faster/higher hp recovery. Stats donāt impact your damage as much as they used to since they changed them, most your damage will come from weapon damage.
It also depends on what kind of content you are focusing on; if you are playing with others or mostly solo or how much you are investing into the character. With good gear or being with a cleric higher Con is not as important.
Itās really not that difficult. Try it some time.
See this guy understands.
@Scyris Definitely Highlander 3 over Barbarian 3. Barbarian isnāt really ābadā itās just Highlander is better. Itās actually funny how Barbarian and Highlander has swapped back and forth over the year though, but now that everything scales properly I donāt think Barbarian will ever catch up to Highlander.
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if your plan to use sarkmis
it will make con invested useless
stat reset isnāt cheap, itās better to have no con at first
field mob is weak as slime, u wonāt need any con for soloing whole world map
and yes highlander need dex, 5x skyliner must done in 4sec
even damage most damage come from eq, it doesnāt mean stat isnāt matter
u wonāt have +9999 weapon when u start playing
have more offensive stat reduce a bit of invest cost