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Which has better gameplay Tos or Ro1 to YOU?

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#21

There is balance and balance.

The imbalance in Ro is due to the specific of each classes, where you can OS about everything with everything.

And I was talking about the fact that lot of games since 10 years have the same 4 or 5 classes with every mechanics known and “balanced”, and don’t try to do different or more classes. Because when you try to balance 80 classes and more combinations to be able to 1v1 every other 80 classes and combination you just can’t. And a majority of players playing barb during cbt doesn’t mean what you want it to mean. How many of them did it because the class was unblanced? I personnally made one because of the class, not the power. Maybe it’s just more attractive (or players that play for fun and not overpowerance are fewer than I thought…)

And what are all these things about balance? There was no PvP, and whining because a class is stronger than other in PvE is childish. “Waaaaaah I killed the boss and had a fun battle but Barbalord did more damages i’m sad this game sucks”. Now i’m not saying that ToS is good as it is, nor than unbalance of power is good, but just that you have to admit that in that game some classes will be better than others for some things. If you expect a wizard to auto attack as hard as a barb it’s not balance it’s just stupid.

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#22

@SavonPool "There is balance and balance.

The imbalance in Ro is due to the specific of each classes, where you can OS about everything with everything.

And I was talking about the fact that lot of games since 10 years have the same 4 or 5 classes with every mechanics known and “balanced”, and don’t try to do different or more classes. Because when you try to balance 80 classes and more combinations to be able to 1v1 every other 80 classes and combination you just can’t. "

This i agree with when you full explain your point. And most (not all) of the barbarian players comments are reddit were chose barbarian to plow through the beta because they saw it was op on kcbt. So it could just be the limited amount of time that made people choose OP. But you still don’t want your class % skewed THAT badly. Also i know it will never be perfect but to get them close is good enough (like i said) i just don’t want want a S and F tier that currently exist.

And on your last point when i view balance between 2 classes like the ones you pointed out. Wizard should ABSOLUTELY do more damage then barbarian just not with autos, because the barbarian is based off a swordsman he trades some damage for his survivability where the wizard chose the glass cannon life.

#23

Ragnaroks classes are imbalanced they are going on 13 or 14 years old?

Age doesn’t really mean anything when it comes to game balance.

That the issues have yet to be fixed after such a long time, though? Now that’s stupid.

#24

@proxy_mctemporary

Age does mean something. It means they had more time to solve it. For example pick any math problem is it easier to solve in 1 second or in 10 minutes.

#25

Runescape beats both tbh.

#26

That’s kind of half of what I mean.

The implication I was going for was that if a game were balanced on the day of its release, then no amount of time afterwards would somehow change the fact that it was a balanced game.

That a game is deemed unbalanced now only means it was always unbalanced.

We’re on the same side here, I think.

#27

Honestly in hind sight the best way to answer the question “Which has better gameplay Tos or Ro1?” is just hang on till you can play for yourself and make your own decision.

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#28

Yeah sure, thats because League of Legeds use the same mechanic as RO? Sure sure…

ToS is different but i like the keyboard/gamepad style, but RO fights were awsome (fast and dynamics). And i dont get the strategy doing high CD’s on ToS… maybe after the release we could see a reason for it.

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#29

I would say mechanically, ToS is a lot better.

However RO I feel is still superior in itemization and customization, however I say this on the limited amount of info we have; who’s to say that doesn’t drastically change at 200+

#30

I understand the question, but its seems to be quite meta currently the comparing after playing the cbt.
I would say they are different. I played TOS the whole time with keyboard and liked it much, it actually reminded me somehow much to diablo3, dont know exactly maybe because of the items and the movement flair. In RO, I played (as expected) with mouse control and it was in someway more difficult for a new mage, but also easy depending at enemies.

TL;DR; they just felt different, but for now I would prefer TOS, although I could come back for a short to RO

#31

It takes 6/7 years to get current episode of Kro to Iro… which is ■■■■■■■ lol…

#33

I made huge mistake. Actually its pretty stupid to compare beta for 14 years old game but my thread was not about game mechanic… more like a gameplay…For example… How you attack monster etc…

#34

Are we talking about content? or gameplay? I understand gameplay as gamestyle (fights,buttons,etc).

And the people is talking about the past because they think that was very good. And we want to improve the present.

#36

My thread was not about game mechanic… more like a gameplay…For example… How you attack monster …

#37

You guys are busy comparing the content when the OP asked about gameplay.

Content is not gameplay, content is what you go through with the gameplay.

#38

Yes, that’s the point i don’t know what the other guy was talking about.

#39

Actually its good that there are classes that does not act same way as Knight or Archer. They have own role which they are good at… Thats is their balance…Without it, they would have been useless. Dancer class of Ragnarok is good example.

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#40

well you have auto target (as wizard) but no auto lock, so you have to run there and attack it, also the same with melee classes, but you have to get closer, while in ro you click on the monster and its locked. I think thats better as it gives you more a feeling of action rpg (which I really felt like in tos, with a controller it would have been even better)

#41

Comparing the two is like comparing a freshly picked apple with that one lump of decay which vaguely resembles an apple.

It’s just stupid.

#42

Yes, they are different. The topic should be: Which has better gameplay Tos or Ro1 to YOU?.

Is not stupid.

I can ask which is better to you, an airplane or a car? And that question is stupid? OMG…

You can answer whatever you want and the question will remain valid.