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Which build better for Corsair?

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#21

@Sabin
So?
It’s got 0 cool down. So what?..
Everyone is all over that but what does it really mean?
Absolutely nothing I’ed wager.

And you know why?
Highlander still can’t mob.
It still sucks in pvp.
It still can’t do ■■■■ to plate armor enemies
It’s still slow at killing bosses who can’t bleed.
It’s still slow at killing every boss that’s not a quest boss really…
And every class can kill quest bosses with ease so that’s not even a real feat.

Where as Barb on the other hand can do all these things ESPECIALLY when circling a corsair.

Skyliner having 0 CD changes nothing for highlander besides having a weak skill to spam.

Because look at its dmg, it’s cd is 0 now but it’s base dmg is weaker.
And even on bleeding targets it doesn’t reach 3k dmg (that’s with the attribute)

If you really want a skill to spam yours be better off as a fencer spamming, Flanconnade
It has 0 CD and deals 2x more dmg then Skyliner
And after a lunge it deals double dmg with the same duration as cross slash’s bleed.
Flanconnade has a faster animation, and with lunge on a shorter cool down then cross slash, and is MUCH stronger DPS over all.
And let’s not forget Flanconnade blocks the next attack for 4 seconds even while not equipped with a shield.

So let’s see…
More dmg
More survivability
Faster animation = more DPS
Shooter cool down on the partner skill
Same duration or partner skill
More dmg from partner skill

Highlander NEEDED 0 cool down just to SLIGHTLY keep up…
And it still can’t.

Now you COULD use lunge and cross slash immediately after eachother to get more dmg out of Skyliner.
But after a cross slash animation you’ve already wasted 2 seconds, of lunge’s debuff, meaning you can’t spam Skyliner for the dmg lunge would give it as long as you could for Flanconnade making it still bad xD

…
ACTUALLY!!!
ITS STILL WEAKER!!! XD

#22

Well, Everyone that is been playing korean right now says that highlanders are mobing a lot better than barbarians now due to that, I trust their judgement since they are not theorycrafting, they are playing it.

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#23

@Sabin
I’m playing it too xD…
Yes they mob better at the early lvls~
but high lvls they aren’t mobbing better in anyway, shape, or form~
Skyliner alone is not enough to mob anything in Mage tower or higher.

And They still have to run over to every mob and actually kill them.

Where as Barb can war cry Agro them over Which lowers their armor making them easier to kill.
And Seism’s AOE is enough to wipe the entire mob waive.
Not to mention cleave and helm chopper having less CD then everything Highlander has AND they overheat.
And carter stroke was nerfed so…
Yeh your not going to be patasta taunting on highlander xD… You have no AOE to mob with at high lvls

#24

Give up soldier. You’ll never convince him.

#25

Her*
And convince me of what?
It’s been a very big problem of Highlander for a while that it doesn’t scale well into the late game.

#26

Oh, I’m sorry lady*.

20characters

#27

@MattBR
20 characters?
Yeh you have room to do w/e and can build w/e you want…
If that means highlander/corsair then be my guest.

By no means is highlander “BAD” it just doesn’t scale well.
I’m just tired of seeing everyone harp on the 0 CD Skyliner, it’s not “OP” it’s really the only way that highlander could keep up in dmg compared to other classes IMO.
Having long Cooldowns, no over heat on skills that count, and situational dmg just hurts it a lot.

I was just supporting my argument, that Skyliner can easily be outclassed.

#28

“Post must be at least 20 characters”.

Well, I was Doppel (High c3 > Barb c1) and I didn’t like Barbarian skills when I was Rank 5. I have no problems with my High c3 skills through the game.

#29

Lol, I’m so confused ._.

#30

It’s c2 where Barb becomes the monster xD…
But if you wanna play highlander then go a head.
It’s just not the godlike op crazy DPS class everyone thinks it is

#31

Yeah, I think so.

Edit: actually is totally the opposite. Since the first beta EVERYBODY tells: “Barbarians are Gods. The most overpower class. Deal with it and yada yada”. A little bit like you, with all respect xD

Here in Brazil Full Dex Barbarians are a kind of meme/joke just because of that.

However, no one is worshipping the new SkyLiner. It’s just a chance to balance both classes.

#32

@MattBR
I never said that Barb is the most powerful class.
I’m saying it’s the best option for Corsair next to Hoplite

#33

about this highlander vs barb thing

barb is just way better for corsair, because of frenzy/warcry, which goes well with the corsairs fast aspd, and their spells have big aoes which help the corsair out a lot.

highlander on the other hand seems like it pairs on classes wich have down times in their spell rotations, stuff like Dragoon, Doppel and Hoplites, skyliner will never be irrelevant because it scales with auto attack damage, it basically replaces auto attacks for certain classes, but corsairs use double wep assault so it conflicts with skyliner.

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#34

Yeah that looks like much better reasoning.