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What's the point of rodelero?

So I just got to Murmillo today, my build is sword-pelt-hop2-rodel3-murm. Murm’s skill hit super hard, so hardly any skills from rodel are being used anymore. Can someone with experiences lecture me why is rodelero so popular in murm build? I play PvE only btw.

My plan was going murm2, but i think i’d rather start another one with sword3-pelt-hop2-shinobi-murm2, would that be better?

Strike multipliers mainly (slithering, high kick) + shinobi clones synergy like shooting star and another shield skill I cannot remember…probably shield bash

Wait, what slithering strike multipliers?

Well, at the very least rodelero’s skill are good for crowd control or defense (montano, shield charge for example)

Hmm if it’s not there I guess they changed it last balance patch

slithering debuff attribute used to double strike damage

Rodelero skills hit as hard or even harder than Murmillo skills when you consider Cassis Crista’s attributes.

You probably don’t have these attributes yet, that’s why you’re seeing a big difference in dmg from Murmi to Rodelero skills.

Murmillo 2:

Scutum Hit: 1506% factor, 3 overheat, 30 sec cd.

Headbutt: 2424% factor, 2 overheat, 21 sec cd (calculated with +100% dmg bonus with Cassis).

  • Headbutt attribute gives debuff that increases strike dmg by 30%.

Shield Train: 1190% factor, 1 overheat, 25 sec cd (very weak).

Rodelero 3:

Targe Smash: 1520% factor, 3 overheat, 22 sec cd (on par with Scutum Hit).

Shooting Star: 2448% factor, 2 overheat, 25 sec cd (on par with Headbutt).

Shield Bash: 1935% factor, 2 overheat, 25 sec cd.

Shield Shoving: 1295% factor, 2 overheat, 15 sec cd (weak compared to skills above).

High Kick: 731% factor, 1 overheat, 15 sec cd (very very weak dmg, can be left lv 1).

  • High Kick gives debuff that increases strike dmg by 50%.

Didn’t calculate other skills because they are not really core dmg skills for these classes.

All skills calculated at max lvl with max Cassis Crista attribute.

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you need the attribute from the helm. (expensive as hell)

you pretty much extends your murmillo hard hitting attack to pest and rodel skill like above post mentioned.
they all goes above 1k++ % SF

I see, thanks a bunch. But that is considering I maxed those very, VERY expansive cassis attributes…

Though i have a question: where does it state that cassis increase headbutt damage by 100%?

Murmillo is a high investment class, unfortunately. It does provide high reward for the investment, however.

Nowhere, it’s a hidden bonus. It gets another +100% (for a total of +200%) on stunned targets. Try using Headbutt with and without Cassis Crista and you’ll see the difference.

Headbutt lv 10 damage with helm on stunned targets: 3636% factor

You all are missing the point…

Rodelero exist to satisfy our captain america role-playing fetish :3

Haha that’s a nice thought, but unfortunately a pointless one…

https://youtu.be/7etlzyCFDWs ok see this dont know how to explain but rodelero is good