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What should I go for at Rank 7?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

My build currently is Swordsman 2 > Barbarian 2 > Corsair going into Corsair 2 at Rank 6. I know this isn’t a good meta build at all and not having Peltasta makes getting parties near impossible once I get to the 200+ range, but it was the path I chose despite having done my research before the open beta hit.

What I’m having a hard time deciding is, as the title states, what to go for once I hit rank 7 (looking toward a GvG late game if at all possible); here are the choices I came down to. (descending order from most unlikely to most likely)

  1. Swordsman 3: Gives me more Pain Barrier and Restrain 10 as well as access to Double Slash which I hear is pretty decent for PvP/GvG. However, at rank 7 there’d be better options than Swordsman 3, which coulda/shoulda been taken earlier if at all.

  2. Shinobi: I hear Shinobi has some amazing DPS with their clone jutsu ability and they have good synergy with the current 2:1 Dex/Str build I have. Downside is, they seem a bit buggy, so I’m very reluctant to go this class in fear of some corrections down the line.

  3. Fencer: Good synergy with Corsair. Good damage. Little late to be taking it, maybe.

  4. Corsair 3: Hexen Dropper 10, DWA 10, extra 5 into whatever (probably Iron Hook). I hear Hexen Dropper has more damage than anything Fencer has so that’s why I’m more likely to take this over Fencer, if only by a little.

  5. Templar: Because what better way to shoehorn yourself into GvG than by being the guild leader? Odd, gimmick synergy with Corsair (one being a party leader, the other being a guild leader, with potential for Centurion later down the road for added shenanigans). And it might be fun to have a guild, though finding willing guild members would be the challenge. I know people how go Templar for making a guild drop their character right after Build Guild Tower gets to 5, but I plan on actually playing the character.

So yeah, I know this is lengthy but I’d like some input, thoughts and experiences from other players to help decide.

Thanks.

#2

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#3

Okay, neat. I take it you play a Fencer?

#4

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#5

Yeah~ I’m really looking forward to what comes for rank 8. It might have an impact on my final choice for rank 7.

fingers crossed for rank 8 Matador~

#6

just be prepared to use the weapon with the worst durability for no reason other than being thematic.

#7

And be prepared to carry multiples. =P

#8

ya that’s the bad thing about it, I remember before when I was a newb fencer with a free rapier+magas rapier, jesus christ the power difference between the two was huge.

Now if you want consistent damage for a long time you gotta socket two veniers and put four green gems in total.

#9

That… sounds unfortunately expensive… but I guess that’s the name of the game at that point.

#10

Fencers are absurdly expensive (Venier right now is close to mandatory), but it synergizes well with pelt 1s and cor 2s. With your current path I suggest just taking doppel 1 instead because you already took barb which I hope would get it’s cleave slash buff ported next maint. Fencer’s a great c1 if you’re aiming to be a jack of all trades but I always feel like I would be doing more damage if I took doppel instead.

Shinobi’s a great pick for r7 too, albeit yours will be less effective than a hoplite-based shinobi, and outside of the infamous shinobi quest it has the tools for shifting into PvP later on (stealth, kunai clone burst).

#11

Unfortunately, Dopplesoldner just isn’t appealing to me right now and I plan on giving up two-handed weapons by Corsair 2 at rank 6 or by level 170. It’s why Dopple wasn’t in the list of possibilities for me.

#12

Uhh, Doppel 2 is the only tree requiring 2h weapon. Doppel 1 has no weapon requirement and you take them for deeds and cyclone. It’s still your call in the end, but I myself am regretting I didn’t took doppel 1 because venier has no block pen for PvP.

Just don’t take corsair 3. It desperately needs a revamp and outside of mythical bosscube pillages JR 10 is enough most of the time.

#13

Oh jeez, how about that. You’re right that Cyclone doesn’t require two-handers… Might actually have to add it to the list but it’s going to be about as likely as Swordsman 3…

And Corsair 3 is mainly for Double Weapon Assault 10 and Hexen Dropper 10, Jolly Roger will more than likely stay at 10 from Circle 2. =P

#14

You get little from swordsman 3 at this point, outside of 5 more seconds in pain barrier and 20% more chance in restrain (Conc and Gung-ho drops off severely at this point) plus you took barb so you have more stuns already. You can get better options by going Fencer 1, Doppel 1, or Shinobi after Cor 2.

DWA is horrible even as a venier fencer on sacrament to add extra lines for your elemental damage, it’s already good at 1. Hexen from 5-10 gives little compared to another skill (say, sept etoiles/lunge, cyclone, kunai) when Hexen 10 still has a 28 sec cd 2 charges so attributes and new skills are better at that point than increasing it’s base damage.

#15

Ahh. Good to know. For DWA I’m kinda hoping for a fix that removed the stamina requirement. One can dream, at least.

#16

If you have plate mastery 50 you won’t even have time to drain your entire stamina bar (I have at least 50 even with just plate mastery 10 and roxona plate set) because you’ll have to pop your skills once they’re off-cd.

#17

Was kinda planning on going Leather Mastery, but I guess I can get both. It’s too bad evasion builds aren’t as good late game… Again, one can dream (for magic evasion).

#18

Shamefully Bumping my own thread because I’d still like more insight on Rank 7 options especially now that Rank 8 has been announced.

Doppelsoldner C3 looks really good and since Doppel has good synergy with Corsair, this is now a consideration. However with my current build I wouldn’t be able to go C3 Doppel until Rank 9…

As far as the Rank 8 classes go; neither Murmillo nor Lancer really fit in with my build… which is disappointing because Murmillo looked really neat, but they’re for shield classes.

#19

shinobi and corsair 3 are your best options.

#20

Dragoon c2 might be an option if it turns out to be good.