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We NEED compensations

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#1

We need compensation for the following reasons

1# We get STUCK in every cutshene when playing with friends. Most of TOS population left the game cause of this bug. A bug implemented DURING a ORDINARY MAINTENANCE.

2# Bots everywhere. 80% of ingame population is formed by BOTS. There are also afk players on every city and most of them are botted account with Pardoner. With just ONE ingame GM you could have solved the issue almost completely but you didn’t wanted to.
Bots prevent us to farm, destroy the game’s economy and create the Gold Sellers issue

3# Huge patchnote. We love patchnotes. They made the game “alive”. But … when you change something like EVERY CLASS and CHANGE and ATTRIBUTE EFFECTIVENESS .

Block penetration will now increase based on STR stats.

I got a friend who want to delete a C7 rank becouse you changed some skills and changed the STR. In other most famous game when they change the game mechanics or change the skill tree of character or when they create a new class evolution … they just gift compensations.

What kind of compensation?

Reset STAT (since you modified STR attribute or because some skills now got a stat % like Blessing)
Resets SKILLS (since you modified MOSTLY all skills of the game and people deserve to change the skills)
Reset CLASS (same as Above. Because you are making NEW classes with rank 8 and you modified actual ones. You can also have to put a RESET CLASS on the TP STORE
a certain amount of DOUBLE EXP SCROLLS (because of the 2 month still not patched fucking BUG with parties. YOU DESTROYED THE GAME)

and as last one the more important one:

MORE RESPECT : STOP REPLY postes with COPY PASTE and try to apologize if you are wrong. Assume a damned INGAME GM and try to help us enjoy the game.

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#3

This meme is right on time.

#4

I understand your feelings on this, and whatnot but we can’t have stat/skill changes every single time something gets changed. These are updates we knew were coming from kTOS. There’s been a lot of discussion for a while now about all of them. There’s no reason to delete a rank 7 character, but yes maybe buy a reskill potion from the TP shop.

Part of playing a game is learning to adapt with it as it grows and changes.

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#5

There are bugs and bots and how dare you release a patch, so give me free ■■■■.

That’s the TL;DR in case anyone didn’t want to wade through the original post.

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#6

cry me a river

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#7

This threads silly and a big meme, but he’s not wrong about giving out a stat/skill reset when changes are massive, that’s pretty standard. Make it happen IMC.

@STAFF_Max

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#8

He demanding more then just that…
He might as welll just ask IMC to get under his desk and do him a favor

#9

I think it’s not the moment. The game also needs better balancing before that.

#10

Yes he’s asking for more, but I’m only addressing the part about stat/skill reset, since that’s the only part I believe is something IMC should give out, and has given out in the past for situations like this.

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#11

We don’t “need” anything. It sounds a lot more like you “want”.

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#12

@OP

PLEASE

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#13

Or rather, teaching the community give up the pacifier :wink:

#14

well. I Play on Fedinam.

I can assure you 80% or more of population quitted.

It they NEVER login the game and JUST look the connect counter they will ONLY SEE the BOTS ACCOUNT CONNECTED.

Why a compensation? becouse they ruined the game with a bad gesture.
The 2 month gamebreaking bug than made 10 friends of mine (all of them) leave the game (the stuck quest) and most of Fedinam population is STILL UNSOLVED.

They keep answer us with COPY PASTE.
You can say it’s a free game, and yes it is. But i’m just giving them hint to do better. Make the userbase happy is one of the things to do.

League of Legends become great now. But 6 years ago the servers were fuking terribles. They just gave ALOT of compensations and people were happy. More people joined the game. How big and rich is LOL today? :smiley:

A reset skill/stats is Fine btw.

And it’s not a minor patchnote but a BIG patchnote.

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#15

How are bots IMCs fault? Bots are caused by players buying from RMTers. If players stopped buying silver from RMT companies we’d have much less bots. It’s not IMCs fault that players continue buying silver from illegal RMT companies. As long as player continue doing illegal RMTing botters will find new ways to bot, regardless of what IMC is doing or how efficient ways to block bots they’ll put in the game.
Don’t blame IMC, blame the idiots who buy silver from RMT companies and who thus encourage them to continue botting even more.

First of all, the STR change has been known for several weeks now and has been talked about in numberous topics. Not sure why your friend didn’t inform himself about future changes.

Second of all, i dont really see any change that would cause anyone to want to delete their character. What class build is your friend and what point of the patch note is he complaining about?

Could you show an example link/quote where they were wrong and if they were, that they didn’t apologize? I don’t really see them using copypasted messages, could you give an example link/quote?

First of all, you don’t deserve anything, this is a free-to-play game.
You are not entitled to anything.

Second, change and balancing is part of an MMORPGs lifetime.
kTOS for example is changing or fixing skills nearly every week, so you think they should be handing out free statresets, skillresets and class resets every week because something changed?

That being said : I’d welcome resets for skills and stats with huge updates, like the one tomorrow and when new classes are introdiced.

But i’m severely against this sense of spoiled-child entitlement that makes you think you deserve anything and that you demand compensation in a game you’re not even paying for.

Stat/skill resets handed out by IMC should be considered free gifts (they’re giving you stuff that you usually pay money for) and should be done when they want to give something free to the community.

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#17

This is called demanding… and your the only one whos requesting for it.

Wow… TL:DR … much demand…much astonishing BIG CAPS

Pls… go back to LoL then… if u wanna compare this to LoL.

If not just leave the game… like how the rest of the population did…

They got way more shyt to fix then to listen to u

#18

  • how bots are them fault:
    Myself i would have been able to ban them all in one day if i were a ingame gm .
    YES more will come and YES maybe it’s pointless. But it seems they aren’t even trying.
    I want an ingame GM who can try to spot bad behavior of people. Just that.
    If they need more staff just … go get more staff.

  • He did a dragoon and putted alot of SPR following a build. Even the patchnote leak was know he started to play the game as the server started.

  • if you really want i can link you about 200 - 300 posts with copy poste in the support section :grinning:

  • well i bought a founder pack becouse the game was kind of different in the beta. I trusted them and i “deserve” to enjoy the game without bugs. IF they don’t want to i can leave the game. No one care really. They don’t care and i’m ok. Most of people keep leave the game even they bought tp (and i did).

i was not in crymode but i wanted to be more polemical i was able to

#19

Probably a Full CON tank (wanna be) that taunt and hold the block key with all STR of his being LOL.

I don’t get this thing of going FULL Stats and neglect other thing that will prove be useful later on, not to count that, the game is not complete, it is not balanced, will suffer lots of changes from the base and people still expect it to stay the way it is right now? And then cry about some builds/classes not viable because of the same Stats.

Most is copy and past from a bad translation work from an online translator, not to say about tickets, i had a big issue related to that boleto crap that happened in the beginning, it worked with Credit Cards when the card didn’t had any money on it and ended up with a FP stuck in my mail box without paying for it, it still there even after i reported to IMC through ticket with screen shots, same for Steam to fix their issue.

In both cases i got an automatic response and i bet the issue still running wild.

I feel like LOLing after all that LoL. LOL[quote=“nagatozeta, post:18, topic:315394”]
He did a dragoon and putted alot of SPR following a build. Even the patchnote leak was know he started to play the game as the server started.
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ROFLMAO SPR swordie ftw.

You said it all and still complaining? Beta is for testing, they could make all the chars start at max Lv unlock all the areas and ask us to test skills, stats, mechanics and what not just for it. OBT/Release things will always be different.

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#20

Every bloody mmorpg has bots… what makes you think this is special

Did he even did his research…Wow just wow…

GO ahead… pls do… ur gonna waste ur time convincing ppl

And u feel entitled huh?.. ur not the only one who spent on the founder packs… so stahp… ur making uself look like an idiot … really stahp

#21

Block penetration still scales with level * 0.5, so it didn’t change much other than some extra points towards it. Which in most cases are needed for STR oriented classes anyways. Asking for a stat reset potion is fair, but not all those other ridiculous wants for something that isn’t a mistake and instead a failure to plan on the player’s part.