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Warlock abuse skill - see the video, take ur conclusions

Within the rules

necroAFK = 120k/h
lock2 = 2m/h

Never said it’s against the rules, I’m explaining @Rehail the reason why you are so defensive towards Necro AFKing.

Legitimate, which does not abuse macro / script

You just want it to be left untouched…They already changed how Sorc works, it is to expect that your pets will face the same fate eventually.

The change would occur at the same time, I do not think they plan this.

No bans for token customers bruh huehuehue

And what is the problem?
If you want more money do a Warlock and farm.

My suggestion is: if Warlock needs to be nerfed because of bots, and because do a lot of money and destroy AFK Necro in Dina Bee Farm, they HAVE to nerf Necro too.
For me, using a Warlock and oneshot everything with Invocation and take the control of the map isn’t against the rules.

My position is: you can’t ask a nerf if there is nothing against the rules. Just report and ban bots.

They farm legittimally.

All Necro are mad now because Warlock can completely take under control Dina Bee Farm and don’t let them farm anymore and want Warlock nerf.

EDIT: for me farm AFK and using bot are the same! Either way you DON’T PLAY!

can not play 100% uptime, but some buy more TP than active players

In this case I’m with you at some extent.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Warlock is in a fair state in terms of kit, Invocation though provides very few utility to active gameplay…it only has use for camping spawn spots. Do you think that Invocation should be nerfed?

Honestly… Yes, should be nerfed a little bit.
Should be nerfed the ā€œrangeā€, I mean, if you go too far away Invocation should disappear.
For example: He can do First Isolation Area and the Second Isolation Area, but when the player go in Third and Fourth Isolation Area, in First and in Second Invocation should disappear.

BUT I want a nerf on Necro too.

I always think that if the items are too expensive is Necro fault.
An active player (no Warlock, no Necro) can’t farm a lot of silvers and don’t have a farming char when he goes to sleep.

If you can’t play: DON’T PLAY.
I can’t leave my PC on overnight, so, I don’t play.

THIS IS FAIR.

You can leave your PC on overnight? You aren’t against the rules? Good.
So, DON’T blame Warlock who play active to farm and do more money than you.
Because isn’t FAIR farm AFK as it isn’t FAIR use BOT.

Right ≠ Fair

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just because other players dont have it doesn’t mean its unfair
i don’t have neither warlock or necro and i don’t think its unfair

necros are simply doing something that the game allows them, imc makes the rules and not you, imc’s rules are the only ones that count, and they never said its wrong to do warlock/necro farm.
Just like there’s nothing wrong with making 3-4 scouts to farm 145 all day.
Each player has his own way of farming, don’t see a problem with that.

for you, but not for imc and thats the only thing that matters
until imc makes a statement, theres nothing wrong with necro farming.

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I’m not complaining about the warlock, I just found it funny that you compare the warlock kit with the necromancer kit

No, it’s not. As in the warlock, it is a mechanic of the necromancer class

I paid for tp, and you? I do not think unfair people play without spending a single $

He has to do it, remember? Active player

O my god, you don’t want to understand…

IMC didn’t say ā€œYOU CAN’T DO THISā€ on Warlock.

THEY ARE THE SAME. FARMING CLASS.
NECRO -> AFK
WARLOCK -> NO AFK
They are the same. They farm silver without effort.

So WHY are you asking IMC to nerf Warlock if he’s doing his ā€œjobā€?
You all sounds like:ā€œOMG HE’S FARMING MORE THAN ME!! NERF HIM!ā€

If 1 player bot with Warlock class: REPORT IT AND BAN IT.
Don’t ask:ā€œOMG NERF GG WPā€

I will expain, if you understand: good. If you don’t understand: you are a Necro who’s farming Dina Bee all day and don’t understand English even if I’m writing as clear as possible.

Bot: program which you don’t play and have silvers in game.
AFK: you don’t play and have silvers in game.
One is a 3rd program and is against the rules, BUT they do the same thing.

Bot-> Gold seller can use it->do Silver->Sell Silver.
This is NOT good.
AFK -> Gold seller can use it->do Silver->Sell Silver.
For you is good because he farmed legitimately.
This isn’t good.

If I use a Warlock I don’t use bot, but I want to farm silver and I’m within the rules.
SOOOOO you CAN’T ask a nerf because they steal your farm at Dina Bee.
Do you understand?

  • Warlock can’t let other people do quest!
  • Necro too.
    Every time I have to kill bees in Dina Bee for quest I pray.

I paid for costumes and spent more than you, not for ā€œonlyā€ 99 TP.

Woah you’re rich than me! :smiley:

This is called ā€œworkā€.

There’s a mentioning from someone on reddit about afk farming that I really like it, it’s the following:

The point of the game is to play the game.
Afk farming is not an intentional mechanic and people don’t typically like it when you are getting something (experience, silver, materials, gems, the possibility of rare and valuable monster gems) for doing absolutely nothing with no effort.
This is not good for player morale, mostly. It’s also a shame because while this game isn’t explicitly competitive, there is always a sense of inherent competition in mmos. You shouldn’t be rewarded if you aren’t participating.

AFK farming is an effortless way to earn your daily income…earning money without actively playing the game. While it is allowed by current IMC’s standards it doesn’t mean it is not an anti-gaming tactic, this is why some people are requesting for change.

An active player easily surpasses the gains of a legitimate afk player. There’s no reason to panic

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I’ve already did this my friend. But I think that expose the act on a forum is a better way to show to the other players and the staff of the game how these skills and Rank Combos are working So PROPERLY that is painfull and stupid. What game does this? EVEN Wow and Ragnarok had his own nerfs and notion about skills before launch them. This game Are charging prices too high to play and when u try to farm, one guy, TP user or not, goes there and clean all the spots and all the channels at same time.
He doesn’t even win the exp or silver left by the skill-caused-death on the spots and still trouble the other players. I think this is not a thing just to report and keep quiet.
Make noise is the first thing u have to do in your life to change bad things around you or your mates.

THANK YOU!!! SPOKE BETTER THAN I WANTED!! THANK YOU!
I feel the same…

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