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Wall of no XP ( no one like grind)

This game was advertised that is was similar to old school games were grinding was common. They also said there will be less quests in the future, so learn to like grinding as a large portion of this community does or move to a theme park mmo.

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Funny thing, they added more quest in ktos on wednesday and they have more dungeon/mission runs.

Itos is more ā€œhardcoreā€ than ktos.
Lol wut.

In existing lvl zones, they announced the higher levels would have less.

If I could give you a hundred likes for this I would.

Not every game has to be World of Warcraft. People need to start realizing this. I played World of Warcraft. I had FUN with World of Warcraft, but I’m sick of everyone complaining if every game isn’t a quest-fest.

I like theme park MMOs as well, but it’s nice to have a grinding game from time to time. Some of us here are veteran MMO players who miss the days of old where you made friends, got together, and killed a mind-numbing amount of monsters in search of drops and exp while chatting and listening to music. It’s called a party for a reason; you’re meant to be social and have fun.

If you don’t like grind at all, that is COMPLETELY fine. Just go play another game. There are TONS of games that cater to your playstyle, but stop trying to make EVERY game cater to your playstyle. There are people who enjoy grinding based games. Let us have our fun and you can go have yours elsewhere.

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As long as the games allows to use different tactics killing mobs is a lot of fun - wether it is solo or in party. Clicking exact combination of keys each time while standing still is boring and can be call grinding. It isnt the case in this game (though there are mmos that have a lot better fighting system - that allows much more fun) - and killing mobs here isnt ā€œreal grindingā€ (though it depends on the class choice). Besides ā€œquestsā€ in mmorpg also can be called ā€œgrindingā€ since all of them revolves around either killing monsters/collecting items/messanger missions - and doesn’t have great plot. If you don’t like it just stick to single player rpgs (which i also love).

Yes, need more quests. Missions are too boring…
Grinders can always grind, think about casuals being blocked by exp wall.

They can go play the literally hundreds of MMOs that have been designed for them in the past decade. Not every game has to be made for them. Let us ā€˜hardcore’ players have one for a change.

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congs grind fest is only just started

I wouldn’t mind the grind if the game actually let me grind. Instead I spend 10 seconds killing the spawn. Then 50 seconds waiting around for the next wave.

You can still do your hardcore thing… even if they add more quests. No one is stopping you from grinding.

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What level are you now?

You’re right, and no one is stopping you from grinding either. I’m glad we are in agreement.

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Ok, you like to grind and the OP doesnt.

Cant see why we cant have both.

Grinding spot takes far less effort to create than a good story driven content, so resources from quest driven content could create, easily, your grind spots.

Make pretty maps, add a lot of mobs to it, go profit grindy people!

Anyone can pop quests out. Here, I’ll give you one right now. A farmer is afraid of monsters. Go kill 20 monsters for him. Need another quest? Okay, his back hurts from monsters, go harvest 15 of his crops for him. Still not enough? He lost the letter he meant to send to his brother. Maybe a monster stole it. Go kill some monsters and find out. I can do this all day. Quests are no more difficult to create than a decent grinding spot.

Not every game has to be filled with thousands of pointless quests. There are TONS of games like this. You even get the first 200 or so levels of this game to avoid grinding and be steered into quests. Almost every modern MMO is like this thanks to World of Warcraft. (some of) The developers literally have stated that they regret what they have done to the MMO market. Please, I’m begging you, let us have one grinding focused game. You can have the next 30 MMO releases; I promise you. We just want one.

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Stop being salty.
This game can clearly cater both casuals and hardcore players.
Hardcore players can still grind for exp and most importantly, rare loot. Since, all you want is a party, listening to music, killing same mob over and over.

While the casuals can throw some money, support the game and buy the rare loot. Cant say the same thing with exp (not implying hardcores don’t spend).

I do want to play multiple classes and multiple roles, but this exp wall and grind fest… truely demotivating.

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I actually have no issue of grinding. I just hope the developer adds more variety of stats choice in weapons and armors etc for the game.

I choose Grinding over these beeline of disgusting quest with no sense.

And for the worst… you need to REDO all of THEM with every character.

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Source?
/20character

btw the lvl 160 dungeon is not working, cause evebody say it has horrible xp

Lv160? Srsly? Before the lv200 you don’t need grind.

Indeed. You should stop being salty and grind.

Yea that is what makes the quests shitty, is that they are mandatory. The fact that stat points and weight potions etc are in them mean you have no choice but to do the stupid things.

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I’m fine with having to do some quests ( a few too many for my tastes, but that’s IMC’s decision, not mine), but I greatly enjoy that there comes a point when it’s time to grind.

The casual players will just hop to the next MMO in a couple of weeks anyways. This is a fairly standard affair with releases.

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