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Wait.. Daino change basic attack into magic attack in the upcoming Rank Patch for Krivis?

Wouldn’t that be TOO OP if it used on classes like Schz/Ranger/etc or EVEN auto attack mages in PvP? Basically all SW/Murm/Dop or maybe even Monk/Paladin/Chap are screw in PvP simply they had DEX build? RIP

don’t see why monk would beneffit from this, sicne double punch is better…

also, magic atacks are calculated by int, so no schz ranger,etc should want it, they also can’t crit

also, aa mages already do magic damage on aa, this niche can benefit from the change depending on how daino will scale, but it is too soon to presume anything.

Wat. This is definitely not a thing, and also mage auto-attack is already magic attack.

maybe he is jumping ahead and thinking about the possible aa modifier from enchanter2.

Hmm… that’s quite true but i was thinking something like 500 DEX schz or ranger with high attack speed + Daino since there aren’t any benefit of stacking out critical rate/atk at the moment with the combat update… gahhhh… I miss the old DEX.

well i wouldn’t say no bennefit, dex gives a lot of crit dmg, and builds with a lot of dex usually have high crit rate gear, daino would make both the gear and the stats near pointless ( save for the atack speed gain).

if anything i think daino will be a quite hated buff, they might even make it a self buff only, like aspergillum, since the only class they will actually help would be cleric circles that auto atack a lot, and said builds should be building around krivis in the first place.

Oh so they are changing Daino? does this mean there’s no more buff limits?

Sorry trying to catch up with the changes.

Basically, yes. This is part of the new “rebalance thing”.

Great thanks, took them so long. Hated the buff limit. Though I kind of understand why they put it in, still hated it lol

maybe it wont affect everyone in the party.

Yeah, I also think you jumped to conclusion too fast.

For example, dex AA Quarrel shooter won’t crit anymore so this means lower DPS for them. Sure won’t miss but in PvE, it barely notable.

Unless you want to try make a specific build like INT archer maybe? Though I still think it doesn’t worth the trouble

Until now, the new Daino sounds like a niche skill (only works well with INT-based Clerics, because they’re the only class that the AA is physical but you’re investing in Magic Stats).

since there has to be some sort of scaling with level, I believe that the level scaling is actually a multiplier for your matk and that the INT portion is additional damage, similar to how Sacrament&Blessing work.

I believe the new Daino can be more lucrative than the plain old crit system if you get a higher multiplier than 1,5 from Daino (which will be very likely, I guess something like 2x or 3x at level 15).
It might even take autoattacking to a whole new level, making Classes like Corsair very interesting and powerful damage dealers.

For PVP they might be interesting if they can actually circumvent Murmillios Cassis Crista and block.
Other than that I guess it’s pretty pointless, because wearing cloth armor is already the best option (less damage from strike attacks compared to plate, a lot of reduction against magic attacks) so you will run a malus by relying on Daino.

However, it’s nice coupled with your skills still critting, since you actually have a realistic chance against all those Murmillios.

I haven’t done TBL since the previous patches. Just how OP is Murmilios right now in TBL?

Pretty devastating if you can handle controls. Hook + Frenzied Slash is sometimes enough for the kill. Helmet and shield help a lot.

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