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Viola's Doppel builds

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

First one is a cookie cutter based off someone else’s more popular build.

Second is an experimental not centered around highlander 1 (for the crit damage) and goes for deeds 10 (15 at rank 8) for monstrously high cyclones.

Problems with experimental; no Double Pay, no 50% crit damage, loss of crown and sword two is kinda ass vs pelt. NO DEFENSE WITH DEEDS.

Advantage; longer and stronger gungho and concentrate (little to no dps increase), restrain, 100% increased damage max deeds.

Feel free to rip both a new one with feedback, please

#2

V1 Build: You will be disappointed. Archers will steamroll bosses while you are trying to stack up your deeds/frenzy. Useless in PVP since no one stuns to barb hits.

V2: Take level 10 pain barrier, not gung ho. Gung ho will scale with str soon (if we get ktos patching). Concentrate and Pain barrier durations are much more critical to extend.

If Seism is a barbarian’s bread, then helm chopper is a barbarian’s butter. You avoided one of the best strike skills in game, and also the ability to combo helm chopper and cleave.

I would go with level 5 cleave, level 5 seism, 1 embowel, 4 stomping kick, 5 helm chopper.

Maxing a skill rarely causes 2x damage. You wont lose much damage between 5 and 10 seism. Stomping kick is a good interrupt for 1v1 PVP dueling. embowel -> punish is good since you dont have bash. Punish is getting a huge AOE bufff. You sure you want to skip it?

Why deeds level 10? Can you actually tank 10 hits from a boss before it/you dies? Remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPq47io95Y

Bosses get steamrolled the higher you go. Especially when you start playing with friends, making good group builds, etc.

Your zucken is gonna suck without zornhau. the same way cleave sucks without helm chopper, skyliner sucks without cross cut. Just sayin’

Here’s my take on full dps dopple: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/a0utpqxzmb/

Build it full STR, 100con, 50dex. GVG/TBL is out of the question ofc. Doppel just isn’t that good for that kind of stuff. Pay double earn is useless. You want pay double earn? Make a corsair2/dopple with max jolly roger and pay double earn. Now we’re talking about farming.

Full STR will allow you to tank basically any melee attack with cross guard. It gives 1.5k block at level 280 lol.

Cleave makes slashing moves stronger. No explanation necessary. We’re not gonna crit as crit buff from cleave is terrible compared to finestra. Embowel allows us to punish. Stomping kick is getting buffed (maybe you would still like to pvp, even if you can’t gvg well?). Armor break is amazing. Cleave debuff cannot be resisted. Giving you 3 stacks of debuffs, with zornhau/crown, 4 if they also bleed) on bosses for vertical slashing off the bat. Vertical slashing is also gettting a small buff. The AOE damage from dopple is good (cyclone 2x, punish at rank 8). Single target dps with highlander is phenomenal for swordies.

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#3

I thank you for the reply (dat name by the way). Most of the builds I post (well, all) are theorycrafts, I love the insight given from people far more knowledgeable in these classes.

#4

First, I think that concentrate was the one buffed, not gung ho.

Well, about the first build.

  • You skipped bash, which, albeit slow, is one of the bests CC swordsman has to offer. I’d put at least a point in there.

  • As said above, helm chopper is one of the best barbarian skills. I would allocate point of Seism into that.

  • Also, Enbowel got a massive boost in later updates, so i’d think about that.

  • Crossguard lvl 5 will only really help you with a high STR build, so I will assume that you’re building one.

  • I can’t really say it’s wrong 2 points in DPE, if you’re not confident, but the thing in DPE is the timing. You don’t really have to hit anything, just let your party mates burst the thing down before the buff runs out, you still get double loot and XP. I would take a point from DPE and put in Zornhau for an extra shock enabler.

  • Yes, Deeds 10 do pay off. You don’t really have to get hit 10 times, lapasapes mushrooms would cover that for you. Plus, i’ts not meant to be a full time buff.

(As a general advice, I consider highlander a best choice over Sw2 in any pve enviroment)

In the second build my advice would be pretty much the same, take bash, get less gung ho and more pain barrier, and so on