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[Update: Strawpoll] IMC, please create a cap for TP token refunds before Tuesday

The Only way I think this is viable is if the cap is the equivalent of the amount of tokens that were possible to purchase per 1 account.

So if you add up all the TP that could be purchased with Founders packs and divide that by 198 and include the 2 30 day tokens eligible with the 2 founders packs.

Whatever the number you get is the total possible.

PPL buy tokens 4 198TP and sold it about 350-380k each. (yes, when i sold all of my tokens, its cost about 350k). Some ppl (high lvl players with much of money, farm on Bees about 120-130k per hour, so about 3 hour for 1 token) buy it from market and some ppl now have about 20-30 tokens (coz its be really cheap a little time ago). 198TP its still 20$. So 20$ long time ago = 3 hour on Bees. Now IMC give compensation 4 tokens. Who have - have some TP for each of them.
Now question: is it right?

ppl who buy TP from IMC by realmoney no have any compensation.
ppl who buy token`s by 3 hour in game grind - have compensation in TP 4 each of Token in inventory.

Nice Joke IMC) I buy 3 tokens from market now 4 650k each, coz its a good way 4 have some TP after 7 of june.

But its still not right compensation system. And i sad yes - ppl who sold they tokens 4 silver (350-380k for each of them) must have compensation. Coz they buy TP from IMC (by real money) and buy tokens 4 198TP (if they have some time and still have TP, now they can sell each token about 550-650k each, but have all tokens X 2, and yes, after 7 of june token prize not drop really big, maybe only in first 3-4 days, when in market we can see tokens from ppl, who have compensation.

The End.

Have Fun! :slight_smile:

They really need to fix this loophole we need that TP Cap before people starts another riot @hkkim @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_J You guys better take a look at this thread and not ignore it.

First of all you can’t resell tokens. So no one is going to buy them up, just to get TP and resell them later. That’s not how it works.

IMC didn’t have to give compensation at all. BUT if you sold your token on the market you got what you wanted which was silver. You decided to trade 198TP for silver and that’s exactly what you got. What is there to be dissatisfied about?

The person who bought it from you paid more silver than what it was worth therefore THEY get compensation since they are the party at a loss. You still have your silver, they however paid more than they should have and thus are the ones to receive compensation since the value of what they paid for is a lot less.

No one forced you to buy and sell tokens, but either way you got what you wanted out of them already which is silver.

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32 Tokens here boyz!

I don’t understand why people are mad about this. The market is mainly player dictated, so it’s ones own fault for over/under-selling.
Nobody forced anyone to sell their TP obtained token in the 1st place.
You can’t sell one thing then bitch about it later that the market prices fluxuate.
You can’t even bitch about the fact that IMC is giving the 99tp bonus to owned tokens.
Seems like salt coming from people who failed to stack up on tokens and people who badly needed silver and sold their TP tokens.

And 4 everybody who say: ppl sell tokens 4 silver - they have silver - so no compensation. ppl who buy tokens by silver - have a premium. So maybe no campensation too?

That’s what i meant with my previous post daranium, both parts got what they wanted so i don’t know why either of them has to get a compensation.
And i don’t want to point the obvious but i doubt most people who stacked up 20-30 tokens bought them for 600k ea, they prolly bought around 350k and i don’t think Tokens will go lower than 300k ea, so yeah if they get this compensation they got most of their token basically free.

Ok This is the reason they are adding this compensation and I Guarantee this is the reason.

Veteran’s pack did not get TP; what they want to subsidize is the fact that they want to add TP with veteran pack so what they will do is give 99 tp with the Veteran pack.

Beginner’s pack could not purchase a token for the 190 tp that came with the pack so they are making the token 99 tp.

THIS is the reason and the reasoning for the other stuff as in to give all that TP to people that hoarded Tokens was not thought out by them.

So that’s a loophole how? it sounds to me like that it’s intended.

please, i want my free TP that i never spent tokens on. please.

It’s not a loophole at all. Buyer bought the token from market for a before the devalued with his own silver. And the vendor agreed to sell the token in exchange for the silver seller agreed. Where the hell the loophole come from? Please don’t be bias. Buyer bought the token from market with fair and agreed price. And now the token going to devalued. They got compensation what’s wrong with that? U expecting those sold their token for silver get compensation instead? They “had” agreed to sell the token and giving up the item they bought for a price @ silver. Please remember the price is not decided by buyer but seller.

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UPDATE: Due to the massive split between both arguing sides, I decided to create a straw poll. It’s been very interesting to see everyone’s side of the argument.

Maybe IMC will check this out too. :slight_smile:

Op clearly wants for payers to have advantage over f2ps

Go play your p2w mobile games

Edit: my point was said already

This everything and because you sold token that she bought gained silver and still or to gain more tp? Want more nothing not doesn’t type a personage upado until the 280? Realy?

HAHAHAHAHJAHAHHAHAUAHAHSHJRIAIFJEHUXUDJ Lol! Did you just ask this community to be reasonable? The majority of the people on here are 30+ year old guys acting like salty children after they found out “Hey, maybe I should’ve bought a token or two.”.

No.

/20cataphractsss

Thanks for sharing your opinions everybody. Judging from the strawpoll results, a lot of people actually don’t want IMC to create a cap, which is fine. I’m not very salty about this whole thing anyway. I do regret not buying into tokens early, but what my main reasons in posting thread is to create a discussion on this issue for those who wanted to rant about it, vouching for those who were supposed to be targeted in this, and most importantly, the fact that IMC didn’t address the token change properly (in my opinion).

It focuses on refunding those with tokens, not people who actually spent their TP on tokens at twice the cost. This defeats their whole intention of refunding the people who solely spent their own TP on tokens. From a marketing standpoint, you’re basically giving away free money to your players who own a token and not helping the former mentioned people at all unless they own a token too. And if they spent tons of TP on tokens then all the more. This just costs you a few TP buying customers, which is bad if you’re trying to make money. It doesn’t really matter to me what decisions IMC make as I don’t work for them. I’m just putting this out there. At least on a positive note (for them) they’ll get more veteran pack sales. If this whole token thing actually comes to pass I will like that bonus 99TP.

Now, I’m not against getting free TP. I just feel like this could have been addressed a bit better and I wanted to say something about it. ¯\ (ツ)/¯

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basically the opinion id just divided by the ones who have tokens and the ones who dont.

BUT
the fact that the compensation itself isnt actually going to compensate for those who paid cash…its a bad compensation

Don’t blame IMC with your bad decicions. YOU also did benefit from selling your tokens unless you listed those tokens for FREE.