went to team battle league yesterday
teammates are lit AF
HOWEVER
have u experienced battling 5 CLERIC TYPES(probably 2 inquisitors and some Taoist)
THEY dont DIE
seriously
when then have a linked golden bell buff(i mean 3 golden bells? thats insane) its impossible win already
wats your thoughts about this?
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PVP right now is very unbalanced, and even the fundamentals are flawed. That’s why IMC is going to be rebalancing it in its entirety in the coming months. I’ve personally only done a limited amount of it because I find it frustrating, I’m waiting for the changes to arrive.
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just wish that balance goes faster
Try a murmillo, a cata/lancer or a cryo/kino
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lol. It wont get better. This company is absolute trash when it comes to balancing. Power shifting maybe. Power shifting means nerfing one cleric or wizard build and buffing another Cleric and Wizard build.
WoE like PVP is the saving grace for this game. I seriously having more fun with guild war than TBL. Our permanent guild war usually last 2-4hours with both egoistic guilds refusing to back down until players are worn out.
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The moment I tested inquisitor in TBL when R8 was first released during Oct last year, I stopped going to TBL. Hated the imbalance of the PVP.
My experience in WoE was quite different though. Don’t really think RO’s WoE was that fun now I think back about it. Was playing a 99VIT sage so my main job is to magnetic earth and spam stone curse on opponents with max level stone curse.
Aren’t really a good experience for opponents though, since me and my guild mates just leave them petrified and re-petrify them once the effect wears off. So as long as my red gem pool is still available, most of the time they will just be stone cursed again and again and left to stay petrified there all the way until WoE ends or they log off.
Their fault for not packing ed cards 
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Yeah, at least in RO there are cards that grant CC immunity. That is where I start to appreciate CC diminishing returns in PVP, at least there are some ways to get back and make the game a more balanced one.
If only ToS has some way to grant temporary CC immunity or have diminishing returns then PVP in ToS will be better.
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They could temporarily allow Dispellers(Rank 1 ailments) and Miko Dispellers(Rank2 ailments) inside TBL, just for the sake of balance.
The only cc resist this game has is praying to rng god that you get a oracle or plague doctor or anything like that in your party. Or relying on the super unreliable SPR stat, which for classes like cryos can almost be ignored because they apply freeze so many times with a single skills that you need some godlike rng to resist all of it.
Of course theres the crap like hook that can hook you for 80% of the game, and the rest of that time can be filled with 3 times bash to follow up again. And theres almost no way to counter it, because lv10 ailment lul
Fun and interactive.
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Thats how TOS is too, unbalance skills/classes thats super hard/impossible to balance. Even if Ragnarok is unbalanced, WoE still defines what Ragnarok is (for me). At least in TOS we have status immunity to counter freeze or other CC(dispellers, bloodletting, counterspell, prophesy), so it would be different scenario. You get to select your teammates and wont have that MOBA like teammate blaming that is also happening in current TBL now because team composition is a big factor. TBL balance will never happen, better if we embrace this unbalance and proceed to wide scale war where 1 or 5 whales wont matter. Only heroes will arise. Guild alliance is also good and let them scramble and kill each other in WoE like PVP.
TOS PVP is good in grand scale of things maybe even better than Ragnarok with the same WoE format. OP gears wont matter if you have 10 opponents with only white gears killing you. Of course after sometime it will become boring like other PVP games out there.
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and those inquistor like 1 hit every wiz class they see
Not to mention different stats gave cc immunity/resistance after reaching a certain threshold
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A little off topic but i just remember when me and my friend was in a private ro server and he gets a gtb, spend one day farming pots for creator. Then we two, me as a priest, go and melt one entire guild, was hilaruous 
gtb card was the king of imbalance.
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Most MvP cards were the king of imbalance 
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Play better and stop crying… There are tons of improvements to be done in tos pvp, but I can see people arguing because they just can’t adjust to the game and keep losing.
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If adjusting to the game is rolling into the next best class, IMC is far from making anything balanced.
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There are plenty of classes that can perform in TBL/PVP, they just need to have some flavor of Crowd Control and Damage, or for clerics, Support and Damage.
For example(all of these examples assume well over 2000 patk or matk, if you arent there expect to lose):
Archers: just need scout1 and hunter 1-2, and they can perform in pvp. Even if a sage is around, your pet damage is not affected and you offer decent CC.
Wizzy: Just go Cryo3/Kino3/sage…srsly. Any build with cryo3 can perform, but this build is really strong if not the strongest build of any class.
Cleric: Have Oracle/Kabba/Inquis. Grats.
Warrior: Go Catalansair, or some flavor of Corsair/Murmillo. Catagoon can still perform if gear is obscene.
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U can tell me the stats for cleric and wizzy pvp?
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