Hey guys I had another thread but posted an updated build link and I believe I was getting Auto flagged.
I’m brand new and understand I can’t change classes once I choose it so I’m trying to choose my build in advance.
Thanks for any help!
For PvP I’d recommend dropping Peltasta for Swordsman 2. Restrain will help you out.
If you’re not doing PvP than I’d recommend less points in Keel Hauling (In fact you should probably drop it completely) use the points on Jolly Roger and get Shinobi.
Also if you’re getting Peltasta then you should consider getting one point in Guardian for it’s evasion boost, it can come in handy for tough situations, and it’s not like 30 damage in Rim blow is worth much anyways.
Hoplite skills are fine, get a point in Long stride if PvP
Another thing, if you’re doing PvP drop another point from Gung-ho/Concentrate for another point in Pain Barrier.
I am going for pvp. I originally was going for swordsman c2 for restrain for the 20% stun but Peltastas Umbo blow adds 25% stun and level 5 Swash Buckling seems to add 25% hp. I planned to go spear and dagger by the way. Also I skipped guardian since I’d lose Gung his damage boost along with its damage reduction. I only have 1 point in Keel hauling to close gaps if necessary. I dropped Jolly Roger since it’s only a party buff and I’d mainly be playing alone and I heard the damage increase was minimal. I also decided against Shinobi because I was interested in Hexen Dropper as my most anticipated skill.
Does any of this make sense? I haven’t played at all yet so it’s all speculation while I repair my pc(motherboard fried)
Appreciate the reply!
Well Swash Bucklings HP is only useful if you have a healer, and as far as I know, you can’t chose your party when PvPing.
Restrain is a buff, so in general this would give you more stuns.
Also if you’re taking Corsair you wouldn’t want to be swapping weapons to use just the one skill. (Umbo requires a shield and Corsairs… well don’t)
I still think you should do Shinobi for Mokuton no Jutsu and Kunai as I believe it can be used as a ranged attack. Mijin is currently bugged and just launches your character extremely high into the air. Also be careful of using Bunshin no Jutsu as if I understand it correctly it increases the damage you take.
Something like this:
Of course these are merely suggestions, you can probably take Corsair 3 I just don’t think it adds much.
Ok I think you convinced me to revert to swordsman c2 so I get stun all of the time rather than just when I have the shield on as well as extra Gung ho points. I may be choosing a worse path but I am still more interested in corsair c3. I’m not sure why but Hexen dropper just looks really fun. Do you have any experience with this skill?
I also noticed you went for level 2 in concentration. Doesn’t it require level 3? Is there a point in going level 10 for pain barrier? Doesn’t it only add time?
Just a mistake on my part, and taking out points from pain barrier and putting them into Pommel Beat isn’t a bad idea, besides it will make leveling that much smoother.
Or you could put more points in bash for extra damage on your knockdown.
I just edited the build to reflect these changes.
Thanks for all of the help I like this build a lot, only 1 more question. Will long stride work with a spear/dagger combo? It doesn’t list that option. If not I’ll just raisepierce to 9 or spear lunge to 2
Oh wow, I didn’t even notice that… It’s possible it’s an error with tosbase as I find it hard to believe you can do it with a pistol but not a dagger, although I’m not playing a Hoplite at the moment so I’m not sure.
Just keep it it mind, skills have little icons next to them in-game that tell you which weapons you can use with them, so check when you get Hoplite 2 to make sure you can use it with a dagger.
Ok I’ll keep an eye on it and decide when I get there or check with someone in game who has access to the skill. Thanks again 
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